--- In [email protected], grate.swan <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> Brother Doug,
> 
> I greatly commend your words and spirit. 

Om, I hear you and appreciate what you are saying here, Grate.swan.

As so important as group consciousness is in these times as ever, we 
must hold out to those who may have strayed from the Great path.  Of 
course it is the moral equivalent to war and it is coming due or die. 
Yet,

"While the lamp holds out to burn,
The vilest sinner may return."

These words, of father Abraham again, are such like those of the 
opening sanskrit lines of the TM puja.  Is enormous compassion there 
that even fallen away inebriate meditators here might return home.

Jai Guru Dev,

Ps. As bad as the non-meditator is for group consciousness 
and "Meissner" effect (ME) in human consciousness, this thing of the 
drug-using meditator fallen away needs a final solution to be found.  
I am thinking that a committee for `public safety' probably ought to 
be formed to deal with such inebriates.  Probably needs another 
petition to Dr. Hagelin about this very real problem here.  A pro-
active solution.

The floor, is open for discussion of this very real problem in human 
spirituality:



>My only regret is that you
> have not let the Spirit speak through you fully enough-- though you
> are a most worthy vessel. The health and vitality of the meditating
> community is of prime importance. Heaven on Earth is our hands. If 
not
> now NOW then when?!  We should not proclaim "Next year in 
Brahmaloka"
> -- but rather "This Year, This Moment!" 
> 
> What is constraining us only is the impurity of the new meditator.
> They come to our holy circle and pollute the holy collective wave
> function. The purity of new initiates when seeking to come into the
> Lords way is paramount. 
> 
> No young rappin hipsters. No drug-store painted husssies. We must 
have
> properly bred, properly raised young men and women from the finest
> families and education. Who have devoted several years to public
> service -- to polish their humility and bring luster to their grace.
> They must have had only consumed organic vegan food since birth. And
> never the lips that touch liquor shall ever whisper holy mantra. 
Much
> less the inhalence of profoundly rude organic material set ablaze in
> toxic fumes of perfidy. And never to have polluted their vital 
essences. 
> 
> I say unto you brother Doug, bring us those pure souls and we shall
> take them to heaven -- and Heaven shall come to all mankind and walk
> on Earth in this Generation.
> 
> Amen.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5"
> <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> >
> > Doubling the "air out" time.
> > 
> > Good idea.  Ought to petition Dr.Hagelin to increase the old drug 
> > abstinence policy.  That one for protecting the spirituality of 
the 
> > meditation experience.  From 15 to 30 days.  Yes, would be a 
great 
> > benefit both for the prospective student and everyone.  Should 
just 
> > be zero tolerance for such anti-spiritual activity.
> > 
> > Resolve, that prospective students of meditation shall abstain 
from 
> > the use of recreational chemicals or drugs, including all forms 
of 
> > marijuana usage, for a period of 30 days prior to learning 
meditation.
> > 
> > Resolve, that to protect the prospects of purity in the 
meditative 
> > experience that all prospective meditation students shall submit 
to 
> > drug testing prior to their learning meditation.
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev,
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Don't ya think, given the incredible strength of the 
concentrated 
> > > drug delivery in the modern hybrid pot plant, there evidently 
ought 
> > > to be at least a 30 day drug-abstinence policy prior to being 
able 
> > to 
> > > learn to meditate.  Like, you can just see it in pot users.  
Two 
> > week 
> > > pot-abstinence simply is not enough to protect their 
experience. 
> > > 
> > > Administratively, 30 or 45 days might as well become mandatory 
for 
> > > prospective meditators or else is just a waste of the 
meditation 
> > > teacher's time.
> > > 
> > > & can now easily test for pot residue in the system at the time 
of 
> > > personal instruction, much like in the workplace it can be 
tested 
> > for 
> > > or in traffic stops now for law-enforcement.  That intoxication 
of 
> > > the altered state of brain function of the high aside, the 
chemical 
> > > drug residues of past pot use stick around quite a long time in 
the 
> > > system.  Is evidently a corruptor of more than innocence, the 
> > > meditation program.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > A life opportunity of coming to meditation and the meditation 
> > > experience itself is so especially precious a human right 
> > > (inalienable) that pot users everywhere need to be looked after 
for 
> > > their own welfare; as well as looking to that larger communal 
> > welfare 
> > > of society.  Because after all is said, being born free in the 
> > > potential of meditating with a clear mind and clean nervous 
system 
> > is 
> > > a shame to `waste' with pot.  Is of criminal proportion against 
> > > humanity.   Is this that is the large difference between just 
some 
> > > altered state and those spiritually exalted  states of 
experience 
> > > natural to human beings.  Pot is nothing short of corruption.  
> > 
> > Simply 
> > > is the science and experience of it, and let the due process of 
law 
> > > convict pot use as a malefic everywhere in civil society.  Pot 
use, 
> > > it's a sin against all that is spiritual and good in humanity. 
> > > 
> > > Jai Guru Dev,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The simple explanation is that:
> > > > 
> > > > Pervasive use of modern powerful pot is the larger spiritual 
> > > societal 
> > > > problem with people not meditating anymore.  Folks just don't 
> > have 
> > > > transcendent spiritual experiences anymore or are hazy at 
best 
> > with 
> > > pot 
> > > > use.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, that Designer pot use and its addiction in society…
> > > > 
> > > > Is too bad.
> > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Oh, regulate it like a real drug.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Marijuana Addicts Anonymous:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  http://www.marijuana-anonymous.org/
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>


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