TurquoiseB wrote: > A boy loves his dog... > Leave it to Vaj and Turq to completely miss the real meaning of the myth, namely, that the Kukkuripa went into the cave to meditate - that's the point. It really isn't just a story about a boy and his dog.
And of course the 'Paradise of the Dakinis' isn't heaven - there are no enlightened sages in Brahma's 'Heaven of the thirty-three'. Siddhas do not aspire to get into heaven - siddhas are immortal and aspire to go to Siddhaloka, the 'other shore' of the Transcendent. What's overlooked by the Vaj and the Turq is that the Mahasiddhas all practiced a meditation that is transcendental, just like we TMers practice. These two don't want to admit this, but all the tantriks sidhas were transcendentalists. 19. Intone a sound audibly, then less and less audible as feeling deepens into this silent harmony. - Bairava Tantra "It was the Mahasiddhas who instituted the practices that birthed the Inner Tantras of Dzogchen practiced by the Nyingma school of Tibetan Buddhism. The other schools of Tibetan Buddhism and other Vajrayana Buddhists such as Shingon Buddhism practice Mahamudra meditation, also a practice initiated by the original Buddhist Mahasiddha." Mahasiddha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahasiddha According to Lama Govinda: "While we are able to come to an understanding of relativity by way of reasoning, the experience of universality and completeness can be attained only when all conceptual thought, all word-thinking, has come to rest. The realization of the transcendent can come about only in the experience of meditative practice, through a transformation of our consciousness." Work cited: 'Creative Meditation and Multi-dimensional Conciousness' by Lama Anagarika Govinda Theosophical Publishing House, 1976 Author of 'Foundations of Tibetan Mysticism', 'Way of the White Clouds', etc. Read more: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.meditation, alt.yoga From: Willytex Date: Sun, Nov 23 2003 10:43 am Subject: Secrets of the Vajra World http://tinyurl.com/dxfhwp