--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <lengli...@...> wrote:
> > And "effort" is certainly misleading because even "intent" is too harsh a > word. > > > L. By the time you are intending that the mantra comes from a body part in an advanced technique, this discussion breaks down. As I said in my previous part, it seems pretty difficult for people to apply the kind of effort in meditation that Maharishi is making such a big deal about. I only encountered it very rarely in checking TM. But within that basic relaxation approach, there is also quite a bit of leeway as we know from the sidhi techniques or even the Age of Enlightenment technique. If you have ever hung out with people in a hypnosis classes, they can do an Age of E type of technique right off the bat with the same imagined results TMers report. It is unnatural for people to apply headache inducing effort with internal relaxation techniques. > > --- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 1:21 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who's a TM teacher? (Re: Free Web Event: > > McCartney/Lynch) > > > > > > > > According to Rick the Vedas says "Be easy to the meditators with gentle > > effort". > > > > I didn't make up the quote. I'm quoting Maharishi verbatim. He repeated the > > quote many times in that lecture and it isn't a long one - "Be easy to us > > with gentle effort" - so it's not hard to remember accurately. Interpret it > > how you will, but Maharishi was very clear in explaining that there is a > > sort of effort involved in TM, but that it is so gentle or subtle that > > "effort" is not the appropriate word to describe it, and that using that > > word would be misleading and probably cause people to overdo it. Perhaps > > Cardemeister can find the actual passage Maharishi was quoting, and we can > > see what it means in its original context. > > > > > And "effort" is certainly misleading because even "intent" is too harsh a > word. > > > L. >
