--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> > > By the time you are intending that the mantra comes from a body part in 
> > > an advanced technique, this discussion breaks down.
> > 
> > None of the advanced techniques (5 of them) I was taught are taught that 
> > way.
> > 
> > I can see why you might misremember that they were, but that is YOUR problem
> > 
> > Get checked.
> 
> Interesting choice of responses Lawson.  You decided to go with the 
> assumption that I am unfamiliar with my own TM practice or don't have more 
> than 5 advanced techniques.  
> 
> Personally I would have gone with "I didn't get that technique so I don't 
> know anything about it" myself. But that's just me.  Of course then you would 
> miss an opportunity to be pugnaciously grumpy in your response, so I can 
> understand why you didn't go that way.
> 
> Of course like all true sciences, in Vedic science all these techniques are 
> shrouded in secrecy and we are instructed not to talk about them because 
> sciences always try to have as little transparency as possible and it is fond 
> of swearing people to secrecy so the techniques of the science can't be 
> discussed openly to further our understanding. 
> 
I have about 5 ATs and none of them involve thinking the mantra from a body 
part. I'm not including A of E technique which involves attention on the body 
but not with the mantra or Primordial Sound which  does involve thinking mantra 
from the heart.



>
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > And "effort" is certainly misleading because even "intent" is too harsh 
> > > > a word.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > L.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > By the time you are intending that the mantra comes from a body part in 
> > > an advanced technique, this discussion breaks down.
> > 
> > None of the advanced techniques (5 of them) I was taught are taught that 
> > way.
> > 
> > I can see why you might misremember that they were, but that is YOUR problem
> > 
> > Get checked.
> > 
> >   As I said in my previous part, it seems pretty difficult for people to 
> > apply the kind of effort in meditation that Maharishi is making such a big 
> > deal about.  I only encountered it very rarely in checking TM.  But within 
> > that basic relaxation approach, there is also quite a bit of leeway as we 
> > know from the sidhi techniques or even the Age of Enlightenment technique. 
> > If you have ever hung out with people in a hypnosis classes, they can do an 
> > Age of E  type of technique right off the bat with the same imagined 
> > results TMers report.  It is unnatural for people to apply headache 
> > inducing effort with internal relaxation techniques.
> > 
> > 
> > Er, yeah.
> > 
> > 
> > lawson
> >
>


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