--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <lengli...@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote:


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> > If I might make a suggestion:

> > It appears that the TMO has at its disposal a legal team that you, on your 
> > own, can't match. Why not get the ACLU and Americans United for Separation 
> > of Church and State involved - and we'll see how successfully the TMO's 
> > 'invincible' legal team stands up.

> > This issue really DOES deserve a conclusive decision - one way or another.



> The ACLU likely has no stake in the matter, but Americans United may.


Not true, Lawson. See for example: 

Americans United For Separation Of Church And State And ACLU File Brief 
Objecting To Government Promotion of Prayer In Texas' "Moment Of Silence" Law 
(6/9/2008)

http://www.aclu.org/religion/schools/35582prs20080609.html



> However, they have been unable to convince any parents to bring lawsuit> 
> against the local schools and the David Lynch Foundation over the TM Quiet 
> Time> issue so far, 



I believe that the Americans United for Separation of Church and State can act 
on their own to bring suit.



> and it may be that neither John nor any of his fellow anti-quiet-time> 
> friends have standing in teh courts either.



You don't need "standing in the courts" to initiate legal action, Lawson.



> There's been several interviews with the Americans United folk over this,> 
> BTW. I think you can find reference to it on their website.



--  "TM has always been rooted in the religion of Hinduism," says Barry Lynn, 
executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, 
which keeps a close legal eye on the TM movement. 

"There are no imminent cases right now, but people, including conservative 
Christian parents will say if Christianity can't be taught in the public 
schools then Hinduism can't be either."

~NEWSWEEK - May 29, 2008: http://www.newsweek.com/id/139206



Here's an example where the Americans United for Separation of Church and State 
was effective in making its case against TM being incorporated into public 
schools:


-- Calif. School Cancels Plans For Transcendental Meditation --

A California public school has dumped plans for a meditation class for students 
amid concerns from parents that it would be promoting religion.

Terra Linda High School in San Rafael was preparing to offer students 
instruction on Transcendental Meditation (TM). TM is an offshoot of Hinduism, 
though some of its supporters eschew its religious underpinning and argue the 
practice is actually science-related.

The critically acclaimed filmmaker David Lynch, director of offbeat films such 
as "Wild at Heart," and "Blue Velvet," had offered the school a $175,000 grant 
to start the TM program.

A school board meeting in October, however, drew the ire of parents. According 
to the Associated Press, the meeting turned "chaotic, with one parent rushing 
the stage to denounce TM as a cult."

Following the controversy, Lynch's foundation withdrew the grant offer.

In 1979, a federal appeals court ruled that a New Jersey public school could 
not legally sponsor TM. That case was brought in part by Americans United. One 
judge noted that the names of Hindu deities are chanted in TM ceremonies.

TM practitioners, the court ruled, were attempting to "take a cow and put a 
sign on it that says `horse.'"

Americans United for Separation of Church and State:  
http://www.au.org/site/News2?abbr=cs_&id=8766&page=NewsArticle


> 
> L.



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