--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I had always wondered, frankly, whether what you got > > > > > in trouble for wasn't so much eating ice cream but > > > > > for leaving the hotel every night, but you say you did > > > > > it only once a week and don't say whether it was at > > > > > night, so maybe not. > > > > > > > > Yeah, because an adult "getting in trouble" > > > > for the crime of leaving his hotel at night > > > > is sane, whereas "getting in trouble" for > > > > eating ice cream isn't. :-) > > > > > > SanER, as you well know, especially on a > > > residential course where you're doing rounding. > > > > And? > > > > On *every* in-residence course I have ever > > taken from *every* other spiritual organ- > > ization (that's over 40 at this point), > > course participants were allowed to leave > > the facilities whenever they wanted. They > > were allowed to attend or not attend > > lectures or classes, as they pleased, and > > on many of these retreats participants > > were actually *encouraged* to go into town > > or drive to nearby tourist attractions to > > see the sights. > > > > What is it about TM "rounding" that you are > > suggesting makes it "sanER" to require course > > participants to not leave the hotel? > > > > You're not implying that TM "rounding" makes > > them "spaced out" and unable to take care of > > themselves in public are you? > > I thought that was one of your *complaints* about > TM and TMers, that they got all "spaced out" when > they did a lot of meditation. (Of course, *you* > never did.) > > > That hardly sounds "100% life-supporting." > > It's a *rounding course*, Barry. > > Or is it that > > if they were allowed to leave the hotel they > > might do something that would embarrass the > > TM organization? > > I should think it would be embarrassing to the > organization if they couldn't take care of > themselves in public, don't you? > > > Please explain to us why requiring adults on > > TM residence courses to stay confined to their > > hotels is in your opinion "sanER." > > SanER than making a big stink about eating ice > cream. > > Explain to > > us why you even consider it LEGAL. > > Well, of course it's legal. They're free to leave > the course any time if they don't want to follow > the rules. > > > > But it wouldn't have been nearly as good a > > > *story* if it were about leaving the hotel at > > > night, would it? > > > > Geez told me this story over *three decades > > ago*. My memory of it was that he told me at > > the time that he preferred the ice cream to > > drinking that god-awful hot milk with cardamom > > gick that they wanted him to drink after even- > > ing meetings. That would have made it at night. > > Not what I'm talking about, as you know. You > thought it was at night, but you didn't think > it would make such a good story if you said that's > why he got in trouble, so you pretended it was > about ice cream. > OK, let me jump in here. When I read the first line in Barry's post I immediately posted since it made me think of my own experience. I had no idea he was talking about me! Now that I've gone back to read the post more carefully I'm semi-amazed. Although this was an afternoon event his recall of the other events blows my mind. Barry I don't even recall telling you about this but you remember detail that I had completely forgotten until reading through this again. The "council", my laughing, yes...all true. How in the hell can you remember something that happened to someone else over 30 years ago.
Judy, he didn't "pretend" it was about ice cream. It WAS about ice cream!
