--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 6, 2005, at 12:57 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > Vaj wrote: <snip> > >> In some schools of meditation, once the calm state is achieved, > >> recognized and made stable, we move on to integrating thought > >> with calm and then eventually simply experiencing thoughts and > >> movement as non-dual. > > > > In "some schools"? I thought the description above > > applied to everything we talk abut here. > > IMO, no. Many forms of meditation deal with just the first method > and state described: the calm state, the "transcendent", etc. I > guess one might say the TMSP begins to work at integration of > thought and emptiness.
I think what Vaj is saying is that some forms of meditation try to achieve this integration during meditation itself. With TM, the integration is said to take place *outside* meditation, spontaneously, as a result of meditation. What one experiences *during* meditation doesn't really matter. We don't meditate for the sake of meditation but rather for the effects of meditation in activity. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
