On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:54 PM, authfriend wrote:

> I think what Vaj is saying is that some forms
> of meditation try to achieve this integration
> during meditation itself.

No actually this is not what I am saying. I am commenting on the 
mechanisms of differing styles/levels of meditation.

>  With TM, the integration
> is said to take place *outside* meditation,
> spontaneously, as a result of meditation.  What
> one experiences *during* meditation doesn't really
> matter.  We don't meditate for the sake of
> meditation but rather for the effects of meditation
> in activity.

So the word "transcendental" in "Transcendental Mediation is just there 
for show ;-)?



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