--- Irmeli Mattsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > > It seems that awareness is necessary for > thoughts to > > > happen but > > > thoughts are not necessary for awareness to > happen. > > > > Well said. And even the ego or sense of self or > "I" is > > a thought. > > > > *** > But still there is a subject, who is aware of > something. I call this > subject "I". > > Irmeli In waking state there is a confound between awareness and "I". This "I" is actually the result of the projection/identification of consciousness with mind. When this projection/identification ceases it becomes quite clear that there is no subject or "I". "I" is an artifact of identification. It is an extremely subtle thought. If examined (atma vichara) it melts away. There are thoughts, feelings, experiences, but no subject who "has" these experiences. The "subject" is not consciousness. The feeling of "me" in waking state is actually pure consciousness projected into mind. That's why it feel like "you" are "something." But "you" are just pure awareness, independent of any boundary. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
