--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Irmeli Mattsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But still there is a subject, who is aware of > > something. I call this > > subject "I". > > > > Irmeli > > In waking state there is a confound between awareness > and "I". This "I" is actually the result of the > projection/identification of consciousness with mind. > When this projection/identification ceases it becomes > quite clear that there is no subject or "I". "I" is an > artifact of identification. It is an extremely subtle > thought. If examined (atma vichara) it melts away. > There are thoughts, feelings, experiences, but no > subject who "has" these experiences. The "subject" is > not consciousness. The feeling of "me" in waking state > is actually pure consciousness projected into mind. > That's why it feel like "you" are "something." But > "you" are just pure awareness, independent of any > boundary. > > Apparently I have never experienced that kind of consciousness, because I just cannot relate to it. If there is something one is aware of there must be a subject who is aware of this something independent of how vast it is. I have just read a book By Robert Keagan: "The Evolving Self". His ideas of the transformations the "I" goes through I have very easy to relate to. It is in line with my own experiences. Also his proposal that the driving force behind our thoughts and emotions is the evolutionary activity of the universe. On the other hand my focus of attention has never been in an enlightenment experience, where the aim is the dissolution of "I". My focus has been in similar lines with the Sally Kempton article of working with energies and emotions and their physical counterparties in the body.Sally Kempton brought out very important principles, how to work with emotions. My method has also been rather similar in its simplicity: Connect to the emotions behind the thoughts. Then while holding your awareness of the emotion shift your attention to your body, where the emotion might be located and just feel this physical sensation. Usually after a while transformations start to happen both in the emotion and the physical sensation. This way the emotional state starts to transform to a free'er flow of energy through the system.And the thoughtforms get changed without you needing to pay any attention to them. When your attention is both on feeling the emotion and sensing its physical counterpart, there is very little space left for the accompanying thoughtforms that can overwhelm you. In this kind of work, that I've been doing a lot, there is all the time an "I", who is feeling the emotions and the physical sensations etc. I cannot comprehend how this process could be possible without. But there is not an "I" as a doer, rather as an awareness. Depending on the quality of my awareness different inner experiences and inner transformations become possible. Irmeli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
