On May 6, 2009, at 9:48 AM, grate.swan wrote:

There appears to be a huge amount of energy spent on two types of arguments popular among kids around 6:

1) My Dad is (WAY) Stronger than your Dad.

2) My Swiss army knife has 23 gizmos, your shitty little pieces of trash only has 17.

The first is acclaim by association. If I cam argue (even with out much substance) that my dad (or tradition/path) is better than yours, by association, I am (WAY) better than you.

The second is the claim to "new and dazzling stuff" that while it may have no practical value, and perhaps is rarely used, still makes my thing, and thus me, (WAY) better than you.

Aside from having allegedly way better Dad's and gizmos, what specific non-abstract, non-subjective personal benefits have you had from:

1) the "authentic" knowledge from THE yogic tradition

2) breathless samadhi

3) your favorite EEG pattern

4) practice of the agamas

5) Mindfulness meditation

6) yagyas

7) ayur veda

8) TM

9) your choice


Not what books or teachers tell you are the benefits (perhaps) experienced by others, but rather, how have any of these things have actually and concretely improved your personal daily life in terms of clearer thinking, better health and performance, improved social behavior?


Wow. You really seemed to have actually missed the points being made on a lot of topics! Impressive!

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