--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: > > You forgot: > > 6) You refuse to argue with me, so there is > something wrong with you.
Point well taken. (and I assume that is directed at me -- though it has multiple applications). There is a line between asking someone to substantiate a claim and provoking argument. We may disagree where that line is drawn. However, there is so much fluff and unsubstainted arguments in some posts, its clarifying for me to look through the weeds to see if there is any substance. And to note the various diversionary tactics used not to address the actual query about their claims. I mean, such tactics may come in handy -- out in the real world. Some here have cognized some fantastic such tactics -- I am a student at the feet of masters. Its not as if most deflectors have not the time -- they respond copiously. Its that some will wave their arms for hours saying why they will not answer a reasonable question about their claims. If anything, I may have fallen into the "dark" area you so well enjoy in prodding on ridiculousness. That someone will spend a lot of time laying out claims, but spend no time addressing potential flaws in such when queried, but much time in deflection, essentially reveals much -- that there (is probably) little substance to their claims -- and hand waving is all that can be done. However, if people feel that I am provoking arguments -- that is not my purpose -- though I can see that POV. > > > --- In [email protected], grate.swan <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Thanks to some recent feedback from posters, the list has grown: > > > > Classic Defenses of the Six-Year Old: > > > > 1) My Dad is (WAY) Stronger than your Dad. > > > > 2) My Swiss army knife has 23 gizmos, your shitty little pieces of trash > > only has 17. > > > > 3) a "You are so stupid (and thus I am not going to say more)" > > > > 4) You are too lazy and inezperienced to talk to me. The nerve of you! ('ll > > continue to interject when I want, as I feel appropriate. It's not my job > > to educate you or make up for your own lack of experience!" > > > > 5) You are too (stupid, lazy, uneducated, imature, feeble) to figure out > > whats > > GOOD for YOU. Stand aside knave, Mighty mouse is bow here! > > > > I was thinking to append these to the bottom of posts, and then just cite > > numbers for each such defense used among posters using these age old > > techniques, passed down from a stellar lineage. > > > > FFL is such a rich environment for research into Classic Defenses of the > > Six-Year Old. > > > > Like the prison / joke joke -- where jokes are numbered, and yelled out > > ("5") -- having been told so many times. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], grate.swan <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > There appears to be a huge amount of energy spent on two types of > > > arguments popular among kids around 6: > > > > > > 1) My Dad is (WAY) Stronger than your Dad. > > > > > > 2) My Swiss army knife has 23 gizmos, your shitty little pieces of trash > > > only has 17. > > > > > > The first is acclaim by association. If I cam argue (even with out much > > > substance) that my dad (or tradition/path) is better than yours, by > > > association, I am (WAY) better than you. > > > > > > The second is the claim to "new and dazzling stuff" that while it may > > > have no practical value, and perhaps is rarely used, still makes my > > > thing, and thus me, (WAY) better than you. > > > > > > Aside from having allegedly way better Dad's and gizmos, what specific > > > non-abstract, non-subjective personal benefits have you had from: > > > > > > 1) the "authentic" knowledge from THE yogic tradition > > > > > > 2) breathless samadhi > > > > > > 3) your favorite EEG pattern > > > > > > 4) practice of the agamas > > > > > > 5) Mindfulness meditation > > > > > > 6) yagyas > > > > > > 7) ayur veda > > > > > > 8) TM > > > > > > 9) your choice > > > > > > > > > Not what books or teachers tell you are the benefits (perhaps) > > > experienced by others, but rather, how have any of these things have > > > actually and concretely improved your personal daily life in terms of > > > clearer thinking, better health and performance, improved social behavior? > > > > > >
