--- In [email protected], "BillyG." <wg...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Living in Europe for the past 7+ years, it is often
> > difficult for me to "get" the levels of paranoia and
> > fear expressed by Americans in their writings, whether
> > in the media or on forums like this one. 
> > 
> > Having pursued a spiritual path for over 40 years, it
> > is even more difficult for me to "get" similar levels
> > of paranoia and fear when expressed by spiritual seekers
> > who have been on similar paths for as long as I have.
> > 
> > I mean, there are people on this forum -- 30- and 40-year
> > meditators who seem to believe that any man sitting at 
> > a cafe or bar is a "predator" secretly there to stalk
> > poor defenseless women. There are people on this forum
> > who seem to believe that people who express different
> > opinions than their own are doing so with malicious 
> > intent...intent to *harm* them. And they react as if
> > they *have* been harmed, by nothing more than someone
> > expressing an *idea* that they don't like, or that is
> > different than theirs. 
> > 
> > I find myself wondering two things. First, what the hell
> > *happened* to these paranoid, fearful people to make
> > them think this way and live their lives this way? Second, 
> > what must it be like *to* live like this, thinking that 
> > people around you are actively seeking to do you harm?
> > 
> > It makes no sense to me, even though I have seen it in
> > many different spiritual organizations over the years.
> > In some, there was a calculated cultist appeal to the
> > "them vs. us" mentality, and that cannot help but foster
> > both elitism and paranoia. But I've sometimes seen this
> > in people who are *not* heavily involved in organizations
> > I would describe as cults, or not involved deeply. For
> > example, look at the ongoing fascination on this forum
> > with "doomsday scenarios" and "conspiracy theories." 
> > What *is* that if not an expression of fear or paranoia?
> > And yet it appears in people who are not part of any
> > organized group that one would characterize as a cult.
> > 
> > On this forum we sometimes see the *effects* of having
> > lived in a state of fear and paranoia like this for years.
> > The people who think like this tend to stand out. But 
> > what *made* them like this, when it didn't make others
> > -- who have shared the same spiritual path that they 
> > have, and for just as long -- paranoid and fearful the 
> > way they are?
> > 
> > The Rama fellow I studied with had a theory about this,
> > one that I'm not sure is correct, but which I will pass
> > along. His theory was based on "predilections." Some of
> > us are inspired by -- and inspire ourselves by focusing
> > on -- things that are positive and that generate positive
> > emotions. For example, we might inspire ourselves to 
> > study a subject harder because we can envision the good
> > we can do once we learn enough to teach or practice what
> > we're studying. I would term that "positive imaging."
> > 
> > But other spiritual seekers really don't think like this.
> > Imagining a positive outcome does *not* serve to inspire 
> > them. Instead, they keep on keepin' on by imagining and
> > focusing on the worst that could happen to them if they
> > *don't* keep on keepin' on. Examples of this might include
> > people who are literally *afraid* to stop meditating reg-
> > ularly out of fear of "the Bad Things that will happen
> > to them if they do." It includes people who seem to thrive
> > more on guilt and fear -- for example someone who "toes
> > the line" and "follows the rules" because again they keep 
> > imagining the Bad Things that will happen to them if
> > they don't. I would tend to term this "negative imaging."
> > 
> > My suspicion is that people who fall into the latter
> > category might be more likely to become the kinds of 
> > people who view the world around them as constantly
> > threatening, and themselves as constant victims or
> > potential victims. What you focus on you become, and 
> > all that. Imagine yourself a victim, and voila...you are.
> > 
> > All I can say is that there is simply no question about
> > which type of person -- which predilection -- I'd rather
> > be around. Give me the person who views the world around
> > them without fear every time.
> 
> How scary!

LOL.

Really. That response still has me chuckling, Billy.
That was great.

For the record, I did *not* have you in mind as one
of the "negative imaging" people.




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