I hate to waste one of my last posts of the week on stating the obvious, but isn't it fascinating that two people here found the *general* "victim mentality" topic interesting enough to comment on and springboard off of *as* a general topic. They had fun with it.
Judy saw in it only herself being victimized. And she reacted exactly as Vaj described, by slipping into a possibly inappropriate "fight or flight" response and attacking the person she perceived as attacking her. I'd say that my larger point about the "victim mentality" has been reinforced, not rebutted. --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > <snip> > > One of the things that made > > me think about this "victim mentality" thing > > was the attempt to demonize the Dalai Lama > > (Gotta-Hide-This-Gotta-Get-Judy-Post Alert!) > > > (or at the very least portray him as having > > "flawed judgment") because he said something > > positive about George W. Bush. > > Ooooooooopsie. > > Two deliberate attempts to deceive in the three > lines above. > > First, Barry put the phrase "flawed judgment" in > quotes to suggest those were my words (a tactic > he uses often when he wants to be able to load his > take on what somebody said). > > Second, he carefully leaves out the positive > "thing" the Dalai Lama said about George W. Bush, > because it was so obviously in error. > > Here's what I *actually* said in response to > Barry's ludicrous "thought-stopper" post: > > "Any evidence, for example, demonstrating that the > Dalai Lama does not have perfect judgment is > designed to make you stop having any thoughts that > there is any good whatsoever to be found in the > Dalai Lama. If he has any less than 100 percent > perfect judgment, you are supposed to think that > must mean he is All Bad." > > And: > > "The Dalai Lama may be a great guy generally speaking, > but to claim that George Bush is 'honest and > straightforward' suggests at the very least that the > DL has not been following the ins and outs of U.S. > politics and foreign relations all that closely." > > > Anyone who > > believes that is devoid of compassion; the > > Dalai Lama is not. > > Of course, anyone who said what Barry *claims* I > said would be devoid of compassion. > > Anybody who believes I *did* say what Barry > claims I said, however, is devoid of reading > comprehension. > > The attempted deceptions are quite skillful. With > his calculated rephrasing, Barry intends to make > it appear that my remarks about the Dalai Lama > were much broader than they actually were. > > He did this because it would be impossible for him > to defend the notions that the Dalai Lama has 100 > percent perfect judgment, or--especially on this > forum--that George W. Bush was "honest and > straightforward." > > Likewise, claiming that I was "devoid of compassion" > because I said the Dalai Lama had less than 100 > percent perfect judgment in proclaiming that Bush > was honest and straightforward would be too absurd > even for Barry to try to put over. > > Barry *himself* doesn't believe Bush was "honest and > straightforward." > > And if he believes the Dalai Lama's judgment is 100 > percent perfect, I've got a nice bridge to sell him. > He doesn't believe that either, though. > > So the only way he could make his claim about me > sound reasonable was to rephrase it in much more > general terms, to make it appear as though I had > said the Dalai Lama's judgment was poor because he > saw something positive in Bush. > > Heck, *I* see some positive things in Bush. > > Had the Dalai Lama said, for example, that Bush > had a friendly personality and a sharp sense of > humor, I'd have agreed with him. > > <snip> > > In my opinion, the ability to see "shades of > > gray" and NOT "bag" everything you see as > > 100% negative or 100% bad or 100% good is > > synonymous with what we call "evolution" or > > higher states of consciousness. The concept > > of an enlightened being thinking of another > > human being (or themselves) as "all bad" or > > "all good" just does not compute for me. > > Right. Except that Barry purportedly finds it an > outrage for someone to suggest that the Dalai > Lama's judgment isn't 100 percent perfect. So > apparently his own thoughts do not compute for > him. > > Bottom line: If Barry had a solid case to make, > he could have made it without attempting to > deceive. But he doesn't, so he didn't.
