Om Edg, thoughtful and sensitive post & reads like is vipassanaic meditation, of course which means to see things as they really are in practice. Seems the science is good on it too. Evidently you've never stopped. This seems could put you in the `yes' = meditator file. Welcome to FFL.
--- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote: > > I stopped meditating circa 1998. But I don't feel in the least like I > stopped spiritually evolving....via a host of other methods. Not that I > could convince anyone here that I am evolving, ahem. > > To me, THE KEY evolutionary process is the enhancing of the skill of > controlling how much oomph one puts into attachments. The more one can "drop > anything" no matter how invested one is in an issue, the more free can the > ego be said to be. I think I practice just this sort of thing every day in > every way when I'm found to surrender to my karma of the moment with a shrug > or laugh instead of anger. > > Ego is not the bad-boy it is often accused of being. Ego is merely the > cheese in the trap it's set to capture Identity -- it's so delicious looking > to itself it catches itself instead. > > It is not ego's insistence that it is real (eats its own cheese) that is the > problem, it is that Identity is sought by the ego with a process that boils > down to "ego examining the ego in hopes of discovering Identity." > > When the ego realizes the true nature of Identity, it has not become > enlightened -- instead, ego realizes that Identity is present in the least > speck of existence -- not solely residing in the ego -- and thus the ego > learns it is a function of a nervous system only....not a god in prison. > Seeking -- the core dynamic of suffering -- ends. > > I think I'm the opposite of the The Queen in Alice In Wonderland. Instead of > believing six impossible things before breakfast, I try to imagine myself not > believing in six of the things I presently believe in. Yeah, I usually pick > the easier targets where my belief is thinning, but any practice is good > spirituality. > > That's why aging is so maturing and brings wisdom to so many -- the delusions > of attachment are gradually abandoned as reality impacts us. One look in a > mirror and not many 20-year-old's-egoic-thoughts can survive the image of a > 65 year old face staring back. We stop believing almost everything on the > deathbed. > > But, today, for spirituality's sake, I'm not combing my hair just to prove > that I'm at least trying to part ways with my parting ways. It's a start I > tells ya! > > Edg > > > > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > dhamiltony2k5 wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], satvadude108 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Are you planning retributive action towards > > >>>> those insufferable non-meditators? > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > yeah, i'd like to reset my spam filters accordingly. > > > > > > Like, what spiritual perspective could non-meditators possibly provide > > > other than their ignorance. The science on meditation and spiritual > > > practice is pretty clear on that. Would save precious time to just have > > > their posts sent direct to a delete file. > > > > > > Yours in Jai Guru Dev, > > > -Doug in FF > > A question that I once put to my guru was about meditating after one > > achieves enlightenment: "if the transcendent is there all time without > > meditating, why would one continue the practice?" He responded, "for > > the same reason we sharpen swords." However as with many other > > traditions in the tantric tradition it is no big deal if you skip a > > meditation session. It might be more important if you are a neophyte > > but that is a whole topic to be saved for some other time. But if you > > are some place at a gathering rather than sneak off to meditate (as many > > of us did in our early days of TM) because you "must", just continue to > > enjoy the gathering. > > > > Also Doug, the theme of this group is a gathering point for who have > > either practiced or taught TM and some who still do. I don't think we > > have anyone here who never practiced TM as they wouldn't have a core > > reason to be here. Perhaps Arhata was the only one I can think of other > > than a few spammer "drive bys." If they're no longer doing meditation > > of any kind they still have some experience to offer even if they don't > > keep their swords sharp. > > >
