--- In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> , Bhairitu <noozg...@...> wrote: > > off_world_beings wrote: > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > , Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > >> scienceofabundance wrote: > >> > >>> --- In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > , "Richard J. Williams" > > <willytex@> wrote: > > > >>>> So, let's review: in basic TM you get the single > >>>> seed sound and the fertilizer and you get the > >>>> simple instructions for the correct angle to > >>>> dive. You do NOT get any supposed 'nicknames of > >>>> the gods', or any esoteric metaphysics. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I still don't see why the "single sound" [BTW, I never did get a > >>> > > single sound....I must have received a special deal.] needs a fertilizer > > - a word that was the only answer ever given by TM teachers - as if > > repeating the same word over and over again would make the mechanics > > obvious. > > > >>> Could you explain your reasoning as to 1) why the fertilizer is > >>> > > needed; 2) how it works - rather than simply repeating the word > > "fertilizer"? Repetition is not explanation (except maybe for some TM > > teachers....:). > > > >>> I have never been asked to discriminate among all the elements of my > >>> > > mantra/fertilizers - following your classification - when meditating > > (not that I could anyway), so I meditate with the technique given and > > my combination of fertilizers with meanings and one meaningless sound. > > > >>> Can you explain your reasoning as to what effect the fertilizers - > >>> > > which have meaning - have on the technique of TM? Since one of the > > principal repetitions/explanations of the TMO is the importance of a > > meaningless sound/mantra, the effects of using such a mantra with > > fertilizers that _have_ meaning needs some explanation to have your > > reasoning make sense. > > > >>> [Another piece of "information" that I recall hearing repeatedly in > >>> > > the TMO was that the TM technique consisted of 1) a mantra; and 2) a > > technique to use the mantra. Based on your classification, my TM > > technique consists of 1) a mantra and some fertilizers; and 2) a > > technique to use these mantras/fertilizers. However, I definitely don't > > remember that description ever being given.] > > > >>> Science > >>> > >> Pardon me for butting in with your fun with Willy who really has no > >> > > clue > > > >> when it comes to mantra shastra but the "advanced" techniques are more > >> like the mantras traditionally given to the public by yogis and > >> > > tantrics > > > >> in India. Except that the ones given by yogis and tantrics have > >> Omkara: begin with "Om" which contrary to popular belief does not > >> > > cause poverty. >> > > > > Especially if you don't know how to incant it properly. Then it has very > > little effect whatsoever. > > > > OffWorld > Om rhymes with home but a lot of people probably seeing it spelled aum > pronounce it as if it rhymes with bomb and with that pronunciation makes > it in Sanskrit a word for fruit. :-D >
That's as maybe. But if you don't know how to incant it properly. Then it has very little effect whatsoever. OffWorld
