--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> "Life may have no meaning. Or even worse, it may have a meaning 
> of which I disapprove."  - Ashleigh Brilliant 
> 
> I'm not quite sure who or what Ashleigh Brilliant is,
> or was, but I catch his meaning, and I approve.
> 
> One of the main differences I perceive between the TM
> view of life and its possible "meaning" or "purpose"
> and that of other spiritual traditions I tend to prefer
> is that TMers -- on the whole -- seem illcontent with
> Life As It Is, whereas many other spiritual seekers
> do not. 
> 
> Strong Buddhists and Taoists I've met seem content 
> with Here And Now, and do their best to make the best 
> of what Here And Now presents them. In contrast, if 
> you look even at the sampling of "TM thought" we see
> on this forum, many if not most of the things said 
> about the world by its adherents are anything *but*
> content with Here And Now. They're more about long-
> ing for "someday" and all that mythical "someday"
> promises. If they're more blissed-out, "someday"
> becomes "Any day now." But it's still not Here And
> Now...it's always off in some theoretical future.
> 
> And the import of "Any day now" is that things are
> "not right" Here And Now. There is an assumption that
> the world they perceive around them is *broken*, "not
> right," and that they must do something -- anything --
> to CHANGE that world, or change themselves, to make 
> both of them "right."
> 
> This early morning in Sitges, watching the street
> cleaners do their thing from this cafe table, I find
> myself underwhelmed by this tendency to view the world
> as something that "needs work" because it doesn't live
> up to their fantasies about what it should be, and to 
> disapprove of it and reject it as beneath them *until*
> it lives up to their fantasies.
> 
> Sitges is a tourist town. Tourists -- especially young
> tourists and even more especially English tourists, of
> whom we get more than our fair share -- tend to get 
> rowdy and drunk on a Saturday night. Thus if one wakes
> up early on a Sunday morning and strolls out to find a
> cafe in which to have a nice cuppa java, one finds the
> street full of crap. Litter, bottles, paper fast-food
> wrappings and occasionally even real crap. The streets
> look as if thousands of people had been so wrapped up
> in having a good time that they just threw their crap
> anywhere they felt like throwing it. And, of course,
> looking at the streets, there is no doubt that this 
> is litter-ally true.
> 
> And then the street cleaners spring into action. Sitges
> has the best street cleaning crews in the world. At 08:00
> the streets are a mess; by 09:00 they are clean and pris-
> tine and scrubbed as clean as if no one had ever walked
> on them. 
> 
> There is no question that the world *appears* better 
> after the street cleaners have done their thing. It is
> aesthetically more pleasing. But is it really any "better?"
> Does the street have more Buddha-nature or Tao or Brahman
> or God to it after a good sweeping and scrubbing than it
> did before? I think not. I think that God (if I believed
> in such a fictional entity) was as present in the dirty
> streets of Sitges on my walk to this cafe as it will be
> in the clean streets of Sitges as I walk home.
> 
> Superficially, the streets look "better." Superficially,
> Fairfield, Iowa looks to some like "Heaven On Earth."
> Superficially, if you bounce on your butt with other butt-
> bouncers before reading the morning papers, the world is
> "better" as a result of you doing so. Superficially.
> 
> But the world really doesn't give much of a shit about
> your puny notions of "better" or "worse," of "right" and
> "just not right yet." The world just is.
> 
> It's been my experience that the people who have gained
> some sense of comfort with *how* it is in the Here And
> Now are happier than those who have not, those who are 
> always seeking some mythical Then when things will all 
> be "better." That does not mean that these people do not 
> spend some of their time as metaphorical street cleaners,
> trying to make Here And Now more pleasant for themselves 
> and other people, only that their sense of self and 
> their sense of "meaning" DOES NOT DEPEND on that 
> mythical "better."
> 
> They are them-selves in the litter of post-Saturday night
> reveling, and they are them-selves in the pristine clean-
> liness of a tourist town pretending that it's always
> litter-free. They have the ability to appreciate the
> Buddha-nature of Here And Now *in* the Here And Now, 
> and not constantly live in hope of some mythical Then. 
> 
> Life as TMers wish for it might be neat, although I 
> suspect that their vision of "Heaven On Earth" would be 
> (in the words of Leonard Cohen) "as boring as heaven on 
> a Saturday night." I suspect that the real heaven, if 
> one exists, has a few street cleaning crews of its own, 
> and that they're as busy Sunday mornings cleaning up 
> after night-before revelers as the street cleaning 
> crews of Sitges are. I *hope* that the denizens of 
> heaven "party down" from time to time, and don't just 
> sit around playing harps and polishing their haloes. 
> And I *certainly* hope that the residents of the real 
> heaven, if one exists, have gotten over that infantile 
> wishing for something "better," some future life that 
> has more "meaning," or that better fits their fantasies 
> about Then, fantasies that keep them from appreciating 
> Here And Now -- Life As It Is.
> 
> Because really...what are they going to fantasize about
> once they're in heaven, eh? 
> 
> A "better" heaven? Heaven, release 2.0?
>

I enjoyed your post Turq - thanks. Thought-provoking.

Except for one thing: It may well be true (insofar as it is "true") of 
TMers. But your emphasis on TMers strikes a false note for me (as so 
often I'm afraid to say). Insofar as it is "true" I would say it is 
true of the human condition as much as anything.

It's one of those old ones, no? Would you rather be Socrates fretting 
or a happy pig in shit? (OK - I'm guessing it'll be the pig!)

You write:

> One of the main differences I perceive between the TM
> view of life and its possible "meaning" or "purpose"
> and that of other spiritual traditions I tend to prefer
> is that TMers -- on the whole -- seem illcontent with
> Life As It Is, whereas many other spiritual seekers
> do not. 

But you've surely heard about MMY and dead dogs' teeth?

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