--- In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> , "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> , off_world_beings <no_reply@> wrote: > <snip> > > All this info above is FROM the site you posted ! You > > have dug yourself into a hole, just admit you are wrong. > > Its obvious to anyone. > > Shemp, several posts back: > > "Depending upon how much discretionary spending is for > any given year, defense may represent 600% of > discretionary spending." > > Off, several posts back: > > "Military spending is more than half of the US budget > when you take out Social Security and Medicare." > > "Your math sucks. You are digging yourself into a deep > hole here. Defense is more than 500 trillion in the > chart you linked to..." >
You are being dishonest Judy. Here below is Shemp's long arguments about the topic he and I were discussing. Your attempt to bring ALL posts back to your feud with Turq is arrogant. I think you should apologize. If you think this thread was still about Turq's mistake of terms, then read below Shemps LONG arguments in this thread over what the thread VERY QUICKLY became. You and Turq do not own FFL ya know. Shemp said: "And, yes, I may agree with you vis a vis the Social Security spending inclusion. Both Social Security and Medicare are essentially insurance programs. Their contributions and benefits are taken and meted out completely differently than all other spending and taxing by the federal government and, as such, should be segregated from the budget." "But defense is NOT about half of the budget even when SS and Medicare are taken out. See the following and do the math:" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget%2C_2008 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget%2C_2008> Shemp said: "Gosh, I was nervous when Bush had a deficit of $580 billion." "This year Obama and his Democratic Congress have given us a $1.8 trillion deficit. Divide that amount by the 300 million people in the U.S. and you come up with a figure of $6,000 per person. And that's just ONE YEAR. Obama's planning on doing this each and every year." "Perhaps not the end of the world but pretty darn close to the end of America." Shemp said: "Oh, really? "Here are the figures I linked to:" "For 2008 (and, by the way, it's worse for 2009 -- which is what we were originally talking about -- because the budget for 2009 is $3.8 trillion):" Total budget: $2.9 trillion Social Security: $608 billion Medicare: $386 billion Total SS and Medicare: $994 billion $2,900 billion - 994 billion = $1,906 billion Defense spending: $481 billion "Now, pray tell Off_World, how is $481 billion anywhere near half of $1.9 trillion???? Shemp said: "Not only that but even assuming the change, Off_World is totally off on this. For example, "Homeland security" is the closest any of the categories he includes that come to "defense". But even that's a stretch. And he includes everything but the kitchen sink." OffWorld
