TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> All they'd have to do is make a *concrete*,
> *verifiable* prediction about the near future,
> with absolutely no bullshit vague language
> in the prediction, and then see if it comes 
> true. If it did, I'd be impressed. But it 
> seems that's too much to ask of those who 
> believe in astrology and Jyotish.
You will have a major life change in the next two years. ;-)

However, you misunderstand that astrology is not about concrete black 
and white predictions.  It is a weather report of the propensity for an 
event.  However it is far better than a WAG (Wild Ass Guess).   As I 
have said before there is something too astrology.  It is not a junk 
science.  The criticism of it by people who have never tried to learn it 
is about like villagers say in the Amazon where they've never seen a 
satellite phone and a visitor has one and they start taking about the 
crazy man talking to a box.   There is a wide gap in knowledge.

With the proper data I've never seen a chart fail to disclose the career 
path that a person took or will take.  Many people go to astrologers to 
actually find if they are on the right career path.  I've never  seen a 
chart with proper data fail why the person was having difficulty in life 
with marriage or relationships.  Often when someone asks why they are 
going through such a bad time one can about guess that one of the lunar 
nodes in transit is causing the problem.   You can assure them when it 
will go away and it does.

What you can't do is look at an ephemeris and see the likely hood of 
some precise event happening.  You have to have a subject to see that.  
It can be a person or entity such as a country.

One thing you will have a really difficult time with is that many 
astrologers, particularly western astrologers, have big egos.  You can 
imagine if they get predictions right time after time without a strong 
spiritual base the ego gets bloated.  I've seen this with jyotishis too 
but mainly ones from the west who have also a background in western 
astrology and not a strong spiritual base.   I once attended an event 
with both western and eastern astrologers.  Many of the western 
astrologers reminded me of Amway salesmen.


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