Putting aside who is responsible for it, how do you feel about such incredible 
debt?


--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rf...@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> >
> > Am I the only one totally freaked out by this?
> > 
> > I used to shake my head in disbelief when George Bush racked up $580 
> > billion deficits.  Now Obama has more than tripled it.
> 
> 
> That's false.
> 
> ==
> 
> Wednesday's New York Times analysis of the CBO budget 
> projections reveal that Obama's stimulus plan and 
> other domestic programs account for "only a sliver" of 
> the deficits, about 10 percent of the projected $1.2 
> trillion deficit for 2009.
> 
> =
> 
> ~~ Study Shows Most Red Ink Came From President Bush ~~
> 
> ...Before leaving office, Bush had transformed what was projected in 2001 to 
> be a $848 billion surplus for fiscal 2009 into a $1 trillion deficit, nearly 
> a $2 trillion swing from deep black to bright red, according to Congressional 
> Budget Office figures.
> 
> But one of the ironies of the early Obama administration is that the 
> Republicans and their many allies in the U.S. news media have succeeded in 
> shifting much of the blame for the ocean of red ink onto Barack Obama, 
> leading the new President to scale back programs and to scramble politically. 
> A recent Gallup poll found 51 percent disapproving of Obama's handling of 
> federal spending.
> 
> That GOP success is a reflection of the Right's massive investment in media 
> over the past several decades and the audacity of Republicans to tick off 
> talking points regardless of reality. 
> 
> A steady propaganda barrage, especially when it's ineffectively countered, 
> can create perceptions that influence the electorate and thus constrain 
> political options.
> 
> If Americans think Obama is responsible for the massive deficits, they will 
> be less willing to support his recommendations for addressing a host of 
> pressing problems, from the environment to health care to the economy.
> 
> And to the degree they forget or don't know about Bush's role in the deficit 
> problem, they are more likely to turn back to Republicans, the same people 
> who enabled Bush with his extravagant tax cuts and open-ended wars to chart 
> the nation into that red-ink ocean.
> 
> So, it is useful to read Wednesday's New York Times analysis of the CBO 
> budget projections, which revealed that Obama's stimulus plan and other 
> domestic programs account for "only a sliver" of the deficits, about 10 
> percent of the projected $1.2 trillion deficit for 2009.
> 
> ==
> NYT article here: http://snipurl.com/jx05h
> ==
> 
> The Times analysis by David Leonhardt blamed 37 percent of the $2 trillion 
> swing from surplus to deficit on the business cycle, including the bursting 
> stock-market bubbles and related recessions. 
> 
> The Times traced about 33 percent of the deficit swing to legislation signed 
> by Bush, including his signature tax cuts and his Medicare prescription drug 
> plan.
> 
> Though Bush is now out of office, continuation of other of his key 
> initiatives, such as the Wall Street bailout and the Iraq War, contributed 
> significantly to the deficit under Obama, the Times found.
> 
> "Mr. Obama's main contribution to the deficit is his extension of several 
> Bush policies, like the Iraq War and tax cuts for households making less than 
> $250,000," the Times reported. "Such policies – together with the Wall Street 
> bailout, which was signed by Mr. Bush and supported by Mr. Obama – account 
> for 20 percent of the swing."
> 
> Obama's stimulus bill, signed in February, accounted for 7 percent of the 
> deficit expansion, and his other early programs, including health care, 
> education and energy, added 3 percent, the Times said. So, the tally would 
> indicate that Bush's policies contributed to 53 percent of the 2009 deficit 
> swing compared to 10 percent from Obama's plans.
> 
> Yet the Republicans have scored some important political points by 
> repositioning themselves as the party of fiscal responsibility and tagging 
> Obama as a spendthrift...
> 
> Full article: http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/061009.html
> 
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> > 
> > It really can be the end of the American Empire, way of life, etc.
> > 
> > Do you have an idea of the enormity of this amount of money?
> > 
> > And there is no indication that he and his Democratic Congress won't repeat 
> > it next year and every year afterwards.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > This changes everything.
> > 
> > Although the current Canadian federal government (with 10% of the 
> > population of the U.S. in Canada) recently passed a budget with a stimulus 
> > package resulting in a deficit of $50 billion, socialist Canada has not 
> > only balanced its budget over the past 10 years but created surpluses to 
> > PAY DOWN its national debt in many of those years.  Ironic, isn't it, that 
> > Canada can afford a myriad of ridiculous social programs, handle a country 
> > that is, geographically, second only to Russia in the world, and yet 
> > balance its budget most years? When I left Canada in '94 it had, per 
> > capita, a larger deficit than the States and I never imagined they would 
> > ever get their act together.  Well, I was wrong; it was the idiot 
> > Republicans who more than the Democrats did all the deficit spending 
> > (except for now with Obama who is breaking ALL records!).  And you would 
> > think it was the socialist Canadians who would be the deficit spenders and 
> > not the pro-capitalists.
> >
>


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