Tells us that capitalism doesn't work. And remember when Clinton left 
office there was something like a $150 billion surplus.

shempmcgurk wrote:
> Putting aside who is responsible for it, how do you feel about such 
> incredible debt?
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rf...@...> wrote:
>   
>> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
>>     
>>> Am I the only one totally freaked out by this?
>>>
>>> I used to shake my head in disbelief when George Bush racked up $580 
>>> billion deficits.  Now Obama has more than tripled it.
>>>       
>> That's false.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Wednesday's New York Times analysis of the CBO budget 
>> projections reveal that Obama's stimulus plan and 
>> other domestic programs account for "only a sliver" of 
>> the deficits, about 10 percent of the projected $1.2 
>> trillion deficit for 2009.
>>
>> =
>>
>> ~~ Study Shows Most Red Ink Came From President Bush ~~
>>
>> ...Before leaving office, Bush had transformed what was projected in 2001 to 
>> be a $848 billion surplus for fiscal 2009 into a $1 trillion deficit, nearly 
>> a $2 trillion swing from deep black to bright red, according to 
>> Congressional Budget Office figures.
>>
>> But one of the ironies of the early Obama administration is that the 
>> Republicans and their many allies in the U.S. news media have succeeded in 
>> shifting much of the blame for the ocean of red ink onto Barack Obama, 
>> leading the new President to scale back programs and to scramble 
>> politically. A recent Gallup poll found 51 percent disapproving of Obama's 
>> handling of federal spending.
>>
>> That GOP success is a reflection of the Right's massive investment in media 
>> over the past several decades and the audacity of Republicans to tick off 
>> talking points regardless of reality. 
>>
>> A steady propaganda barrage, especially when it's ineffectively countered, 
>> can create perceptions that influence the electorate and thus constrain 
>> political options.
>>
>> If Americans think Obama is responsible for the massive deficits, they will 
>> be less willing to support his recommendations for addressing a host of 
>> pressing problems, from the environment to health care to the economy.
>>
>> And to the degree they forget or don't know about Bush's role in the deficit 
>> problem, they are more likely to turn back to Republicans, the same people 
>> who enabled Bush with his extravagant tax cuts and open-ended wars to chart 
>> the nation into that red-ink ocean.
>>
>> So, it is useful to read Wednesday's New York Times analysis of the CBO 
>> budget projections, which revealed that Obama's stimulus plan and other 
>> domestic programs account for "only a sliver" of the deficits, about 10 
>> percent of the projected $1.2 trillion deficit for 2009.
>>
>> ==
>> NYT article here: http://snipurl.com/jx05h
>> ==
>>
>> The Times analysis by David Leonhardt blamed 37 percent of the $2 trillion 
>> swing from surplus to deficit on the business cycle, including the bursting 
>> stock-market bubbles and related recessions. 
>>
>> The Times traced about 33 percent of the deficit swing to legislation signed 
>> by Bush, including his signature tax cuts and his Medicare prescription drug 
>> plan.
>>
>> Though Bush is now out of office, continuation of other of his key 
>> initiatives, such as the Wall Street bailout and the Iraq War, contributed 
>> significantly to the deficit under Obama, the Times found.
>>
>> "Mr. Obama's main contribution to the deficit is his extension of several 
>> Bush policies, like the Iraq War and tax cuts for households making less 
>> than $250,000," the Times reported. "Such policies – together with the Wall 
>> Street bailout, which was signed by Mr. Bush and supported by Mr. Obama – 
>> account for 20 percent of the swing."
>>
>> Obama's stimulus bill, signed in February, accounted for 7 percent of the 
>> deficit expansion, and his other early programs, including health care, 
>> education and energy, added 3 percent, the Times said. So, the tally would 
>> indicate that Bush's policies contributed to 53 percent of the 2009 deficit 
>> swing compared to 10 percent from Obama's plans.
>>
>> Yet the Republicans have scored some important political points by 
>> repositioning themselves as the party of fiscal responsibility and tagging 
>> Obama as a spendthrift...
>>
>> Full article: http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/061009.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>>> It really can be the end of the American Empire, way of life, etc.
>>>
>>> Do you have an idea of the enormity of this amount of money?
>>>
>>> And there is no indication that he and his Democratic Congress won't repeat 
>>> it next year and every year afterwards.
>>>       
>>
>>     
>>> This changes everything.
>>>
>>> Although the current Canadian federal government (with 10% of the 
>>> population of the U.S. in Canada) recently passed a budget with a stimulus 
>>> package resulting in a deficit of $50 billion, socialist Canada has not 
>>> only balanced its budget over the past 10 years but created surpluses to 
>>> PAY DOWN its national debt in many of those years.  Ironic, isn't it, that 
>>> Canada can afford a myriad of ridiculous social programs, handle a country 
>>> that is, geographically, second only to Russia in the world, and yet 
>>> balance its budget most years? When I left Canada in '94 it had, per 
>>> capita, a larger deficit than the States and I never imagined they would 
>>> ever get their act together.  Well, I was wrong; it was the idiot 
>>> Republicans who more than the Democrats did all the deficit spending 
>>> (except for now with Obama who is breaking ALL records!).  And you would 
>>> think it was the socialist Canadians who would be the deficit spenders and 
>>> not the pro-capitalists.
>>>
>>>       
>
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