> > > The statement that 'one obviously accepts what one wishes to accept - and > rejects what one wishes to reject' is wishful thinking?
-Yes, based on emotions that can change from one moment to the next. If you have strong faith that GD raised someone from the dead, then that's between you and your object of faith, I don't question that. If you would have said I have faith as a disciple of Guru Dev that he can raise someone from the dead. I can accept that since it's a matter of faith. > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rf...@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], sgrayatlarge <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > One obviously accepts what one wishes to accept - and rejects what one > > wishes to reject. > > > > > Understanding based on wishful thinking > > > > The statement that 'one obviously accepts what one wishes to accept - and > rejects what one wishes to reject' is wishful thinking? > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], sgrayatlarge <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you facts to show this event really happened? > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course you don't, nobody does, so it's a story or perhaps > > > > > > a legend > > > > > > > > > > The story appears in two versions of Guru Dev's biography > > > > > which was essentially a compilation of discourses by Guru > > > > > Dev written down by his disciples wherein he described his > > > > > own personal experiences. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe he or they lied, eh? > > > > > > > > Similarly, if one looks at the life of Frederick > > > > Lenz - Rama, there are compilations of accounts > > > > by hundreds of his students (including my accounts) > > > > that report any number of phenomena that most would > > > > consider "miracles" or the performance of siddhis. > > > > They are equally true, right? :-) > > > > > > > > > And maybe even though Guru Dev was considered to have > > > > > reached the highest pinnacle of spiritual development... > > > > > > > > By whom? By people who had a vested interest in > > > > protecting their "investment" of time and energy > > > > and their lives into his teachings. You went > > > > through the TM movement, and saw how willing > > > > people were to pass along rumors and make up > > > > stuff to justify *that* investment of time and > > > > energy and their lives, right? And you think that > > > > things were somehow *different* around Guru Dev? > > > > > > > > > ...the use of the siddhis is total bullshit after all. > > > > > Ya think? > > > > > > > > Unlike most (if not all) of you on this forum, I > > > > have witnessed siddhis being performed. Were they > > > > "real," in the sense that they would have been > > > > captured by a video camera recording the events? > > > > Beats the shit outa me. Were they "real" in the > > > > sense that I and hundreds of others witnessed > > > > them and reported witnessing them? You betcha. > > > > > > > > So what makes any of these reports of siddhis > > > > any different than the ones you believe that > > > > Guru Dev performed? The fact that you feel an > > > > emotionoal resonance with him? That's real > > > > scientific. :-) > > > > > > > > It's a story, John. Unless you were there at the > > > > time to witness it yourself, you have *no idea* > > > > whether it is a true story or not. And my point > > > > is that even if you *had* been there you would > > > > not know. All that you would "know" is what you > > > > saw, or convinced yourself that you saw. That > > > > is not the same thing as "truth." > > > > > > > > I can accept this, having witnessed siddhis. > > > > Why can't you, having not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One obviously accepts what one wishes to accept - and rejects what one > > > wishes to reject. > > > > > >
