One more:

God!  This guy doesn't even know about the three court cases?  Better to
not bother arguing with him.

Dana


Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Friday, July 1, 2005 at 12:44 PM
wrote:


>more
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>From: sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:46:48 -0000
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the
>20th Century
>
>--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 10:55 AM, sparaig wrote:
>> 
>> > MY position comes from Anoop Chandola's conversation with his
>> > meditation teacher,
>> > Swami Shantananda Saraswati, closest disciple of Swami Brahamanda
>> > Saraswati, AKA
>> > "Gurudev" on this forum. No account denies that Swami Shantananda
>> > Saraswati was
>> > Gurudev's closest disciple --most people here, however, prefer to
>> > think that S.
>> > Shantananda "wasn't worthy" of his position, and that another Swami,
>> > who was never
>> > Gurudev's disciple, was (that's who the other Shankaracharya of
>> > Jyotirmath was at the time
>> > Chandola learned meditation: someone picked by committee who wasn't
>> > even a student of
>> > Gurudev --by the committee's view NOT ONE of Gurudev's students was
>> > worthy).
>> 
>> You seem to not be aware of a number of things 1) the Shankaracharya is
>> not necessarily the one who chooses his successor
>
>
>So the successor is generally chosen over the wishes of the
>Shankaracharya?
>The will was 
>ignored by the committee and no-one else who was a student of Gurudev's
>was
>chosen, 
>either.
>
>
>and 2) you seem to
>> assume the SBS's will was really his will. It had been disputed.
>
>
>By whom? Did they take it to court? What was the result?
>
>> 
>> > No account denies that Swami Shantananda Saraswati was
>> > Gurudev's closest disciple
>> 
>> No account? Hmmm.
>
>
>Please give reference to an account that says that Swami Shantananda was
>NOT
>the closest 
>disciple of Gurudev...
>
>
><crickets>
>
>> 
>> >  --most people here, however, prefer to think that S.
>> > Shantananda "wasn't worthy" of his position, and that another Swami,
>> > who was never
>> > Gurudev's disciple, was (that's who the other Shankaracharya of
>> > Jyotirmath was at the time
>> > Chandola learned meditation: someone picked by committee who wasn't
>> > even a student of
>> > Gurudev --by the committee's view NOT ONE of Gurudev's students was
>> > worthy).
>> 
>> So you consider "closeness" an important criteria for succession.
>> That's interesting.
>
>
>Barring any other criteria mentioned, what would YOU go on?
>
>> 
>> > The following is what Dana Sawyer thinks:
>> (snip)
>> 
>> He hasn't finished responding, actually he just started with a brief
>> intro. Let's not jump to conclusions here (again).
>
>
>The URL was what I was referring to. That URL was referred to by Dana
>Sawyer
>in his 
>response, and the author of that article credits Dana Sawyer with a great
>deal of 
>background info in writing it.
>
>
>> 
>> IMO Swami Karpatri, the "Shankaracharya maker", was the most qualified
>> successor--but that is just my personal opinion based on what I know at
>> a point removed considerably in time from the original events.
>
>
>Perhaps he was, but was he ever offered the position? He's apparently not
>mentioned in 
>the will, nor in the article on the succession endorsed by Dana Sawyer.
>Was
>he a stuent of 
>Gurudev's? Did the committee consider him in 1953 or later? How do you
>know?
>
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