--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > > on 7/11/05 1:13 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am missing the importance of Shankaracharaya endorsement. 
In 
> > the
> > > > > west, can you see an introductory lecture:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Lecturer: "And this technique is endorsed by the 
> > Shankaracharaya. hes
> > > > > like the pope."
> > > > > 
> > > > > Audience: "Huh?"
> > > > > 
> > > > > L: "Well I mean the real Shankaracharaya, not the fake one."
> > > > > 
> > > > > A: "huh?"
> > > > > 
> > > > > L: "Well at least the real northern one. The important one. 
> > Those more
> > > > > southern ones  -- well, you know about southern things"
> > > > > 
> > > > > A: "huh? !! ???" 
> > > > > 
> > > > > A: "Isn't the Shankaracharaya a religious leader? I htought 
> > this was a
> > > > > secular technique."
> > > > > 
> > > > > L: "Well of course it is.  But the REAL religious leaders 
also 
> > think
> > > > > its good. Like automobiles. Well, thats not a good example. 
the
> > > > > Shankaracharayas are not allowed to ride in cars. "
> > > > > 
> > > > > A: "HUH ?"
> > > > > 
> > > > > L: "Well this is all more important in India"
> > > > > 
> > > > > A; "uh, ok?"
> > > > > 
> > > > > Meanwhile in India, three of the most popular teachers, 
Amma,
> > > > > Karunyamayi, and SSRShankar appear to have no ties to or 
> > endorsements
> > > > > from the Shankaracharaya. As Barry, author of "Amazing, 
> > Exagerated and
> > > > > Smug Tales" would say, "Go figure."
> > > > 
> > > > I think for MMY, the endorsement of a Shankaracharya was a 
big 
> > deal,
> > > since
> > > > he was the disciple of a Shankaracharya and considers the 
> > Shankaracharya
> > > > tradition to be the roots of his movement. So he tried to 
prop up
> > > his own
> > > > Shankaracharya when the official one didn't support him.
> > > 
> > > But if endorsement was not a big issue in west or India, why 
would 
> > he
> > > feel a need for personal peace of mind, and not just say, "i 
know 
> > what
> > > GD really thought and wanted. I don't need a piece of paper, a 
> > formal
> > > endorsement."
> > > 
> > > (Fade to the back-up singers -- Joe Clarke, Charlie Donahue, Tom
> > > Winquist and Rick Nelson (the original 4 US SIMS shanks) 
singing in
> > > complex harmony "We don't need no stinkin endorsements ..." )
> > 
> > When did Swami Shantananda publicly endorse MMY?
> 
> I remember lots of TMO interaction with him, his being at special 
TMO
> events in which he would say nice things about TMO and MMY, meeting
> with TTCers in India, and with 108 visiting India. By his actions he
> seemed to (clearly) like Maharishi and give moral support to the 
TMO. 
> 
> I am not sure he had a press oonference, at proper auspicious 
jyotish
> time, and stood up and signed an official golden proclamation saying
> "MMY, what a guy!!" if thats what you mean.

It's obvious that Swami Shantananda had a relationship with MMY of 
some kind, but what you're talking about was years after the first 
succession war. He never visited MMY during the Beatles' stay or 
anything, did he?




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