You think someone as smart as Spraig could at least trim his motherfucking posts for these one liners.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: sparaig
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
> > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > The chances of an American administration
> > > > and/or an American Congress being able to resist the
> > > > pressure and often outright bribes made by these
> > > > companies is, in my opinion, slight.  It's almost as
> > > > if it'll require junking the entire system and start-
> > > > ing over to fix it.  And how likely is that?
> > >
> > > As the Common Dreams guy notes, though, the French
> > > have to pay significantly higher taxes in return for
> > > their excellent health care.  So it's not just the
> > > pressure from those who profit from the current
> > > health care system the legislators would have to
> > > resist, but from the taxpayers as well--especially
> > > the upper-income taxpayers who are less dependent
> > > on good health insurance for their medical care.
> >
> > We already pay extraordinarily high taxes in this country.
>
> By *our* standards, not by that of other countries.
>
> > Our SS
> > fund has been used as a resevoir for tax refunds to the wealthy
and
> > for public funding of wars, and corporate subsidies, etc. All of
> > that comes out of the SS fund, which is paid for almost entirely
by
> > the lowest 99% of wage-earners.
>
> Oh, lord.  You may not approve of what the government
> spends the trust fund money on, as I don't, but unless
> the government *defaults* on the Treasury bonds Social
> Security bought with the trust fund money, all of it
> will come back to Social Security when it's needed for
> pensions for those who are paying into Social Security
> now.  The people who pay into it will get it back.
>
> The big problem is where the government is going to
> get the money to redeem the bonds, but redeem them
> it must; it's in the Constitution.  The bonds are
> backed by "the full faith and credit" of the U.S.
> government, according to the Constitution.

And Bush has been hinting of trying to get around this in some way...




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