--- In [email protected], "compost1uk" <compost...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "compost1uk" <compost1uk@> wrote:
<snip>
> > > I don't think it's about the "stuff" so much as about
> > > the laws: A supernatural object or event is one in
> > > which the Laws of Nature are temporarily suspended (or 
> > > violated).
> > 
> > But that would imply we know all the laws of 
> > nature, wouldn't it?
> 
> Well, maybe. What an odd idea "supernatural" is when you
> prod and poke at it!
> 
> Something strange needs explaining. The supernaturalist
> says there IS no explanation;

Or gives an explanation that can't be turned
into a testable hypothesis.

 the scientist says there would be if we could just
> figure it out. I think I'm with the latter, but
> (against Stenger), I don't see why all explanations
> are materialist explanations.

I think it comes down to testability. I have a
sneaking suspicion that a lot of things that are
rejected as "supernatural" because they can't be--
or haven't been--nailed down by a test have simply
not been tested properly.

Lawrence LeShan came out with a book recently 
arguing that tests for mental telepathy are so
poorly designed that they couldn't find telepathy
even if it did exist, and proposes a different
approach altogether.


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