On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:46 PM, yifuxero wrote:
Preliminary notes: Auth objects to Vaj's overuse(?) of Wiki to
bolster viewpoints.
Vaj hasn't used wikipedia for his viewpoint, as Vaj knows that TM-bots
and the TMO are not only manipulating TM-related entries (and staking
them out), they're doing the same thing around Hagelin and Flipped SU
(5). That may be why it doesn't have Flipped SU(5)'s real discoverer
in it's Wikipedia entry, Dimitri Nanopoulos.
Fine, given that, I contacted a REAL physics genius - a true expert
in Quantum Mechanics, not in any way associated with MUM, or TM.
Since SU(5) is the lynchpin of virtually the entire MMY-Hagelin
theories relating PC, the question of "unified fields" and any
possible grand-theories, relating either to GUT's or TOE's; the
lynchpin imo has collapsed.
As far as I'm concerned, Hagelin's contribution to Quantum
Spirituality has been discredited, whether it be the initial or
later "flipped" SU(5). Here's the reply by the physicist on top of
my initial question:
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to Quote:
Unfortunately your conversation or your comments weren't that helpful
or illuminating. You failed miss to that Flipped SU(5) IS still
falsifiable, and although it is considered old and outdated, it still
is a candidate for comparison to the eventual findings at the LHC.
However since the theory stands on another failed theory and based on
several other grounds, it is very unlikely that Flipped SU(5) is the
Big Answer.
The big point is Hagelin does not play the role the TMO tries to paint
him in. Georgi, his mentor, never even mentions Hagelin once in the
published record. Although it would be fair to say he was once a
gifted physicist who happened to assist a great physicist.