On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:46 PM, yifuxero wrote:

Preliminary notes: Auth objects to Vaj's overuse(?) of Wiki to bolster viewpoints.

Vaj hasn't used wikipedia for his viewpoint, as Vaj knows that TM-bots and the TMO are not only manipulating TM-related entries (and staking them out), they're doing the same thing around Hagelin and Flipped SU (5). That may be why it doesn't have Flipped SU(5)'s real discoverer in it's Wikipedia entry, Dimitri Nanopoulos.

Fine, given that, I contacted a REAL physics genius - a true expert in Quantum Mechanics, not in any way associated with MUM, or TM. Since SU(5) is the lynchpin of virtually the entire MMY-Hagelin theories relating PC, the question of "unified fields" and any possible grand-theories, relating either to GUT's or TOE's; the lynchpin imo has collapsed. As far as I'm concerned, Hagelin's contribution to Quantum Spirituality has been discredited, whether it be the initial or later "flipped" SU(5). Here's the reply by the physicist on top of my initial question:
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Unfortunately your conversation or your comments weren't that helpful or illuminating. You failed miss to that Flipped SU(5) IS still falsifiable, and although it is considered old and outdated, it still is a candidate for comparison to the eventual findings at the LHC. However since the theory stands on another failed theory and based on several other grounds, it is very unlikely that Flipped SU(5) is the Big Answer.

The big point is Hagelin does not play the role the TMO tries to paint him in. Georgi, his mentor, never even mentions Hagelin once in the published record. Although it would be fair to say he was once a gifted physicist who happened to assist a great physicist.

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