--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <dhamiltony...@...> wrote: > [quoting Doug:] > > <snip> > > > > However, is noteable to find Maharaj Tony and Raja > > > > Konhaus lately 'pitching' channeling and spiritualism > > > > as a direction for re-kindle and salvation for the > > > > TMmovement after Maharishi, in distinction to what was > > > > a meditator shakti movement. Seemingly becomes now a > > > > contest on the road to Damascus to find who 'hears' > > > > from Maharishi the clearest, as they are framing it. > > [I wrote:] > > I must have missed this. When and where and how, > > exactly, have Tony and Konhaus pitched channeling > > and "spiritualism" and "hearing from" Maharishi? > > > > Do we know this for a fact? What are some examples? > > Judy, > You do have amazing research skills & evidently some time. > Take a look at an index to FFL, scroll down to the area > around Maharishi's death. That will get you to the area. > Was in the movement's global chats and the Maharishi Open > University broadcasts that these guys gave in that time of > freefall. Almost seemed they started down the road to > Damascus towards being a spiritualist organization and > were called back to being a spirituality group.
Funny thing, because I've been watching like a hawk for this kind of nonsense ever since MMY died-- especially right after he died--and never saw anything posted here that even remotely fits your description quoted above. The reason I was on the alert for it is that I had previously speculated about the possibility. As I recall, the first time I mentioned it was when it was announced that MMY had anointed King Tony as his successor, and some were surprised because that was well before there was any sign that he was close to leaving us. I said then that I thought he had done so because (1) he wanted to avoid any succession controversy like what occurred with Guru Dev; and (2) he figured if there was someone very visibly in command of the TMO when he died, there would be less chance of the movement splitting into factions on the basis of who claimed to have been told what by MMY from the Great Beyond. > Would bet Euros that they have taken down the links > now. However, was something that evidently got played > out at the inner TM circle in Vlodrop at the time as > they were trying to sort themselves out and find > language for themselves and the TMmovement in those > days. If you're talking about the notion that MMY was in heaven watching over us, this is what I thought too. I didn't find it alarming in the slightest, and it never appeared to progress any further. If anything did come up along the lines you suggest in what I quoted at the top, it must have been very quickly stomped on before it seeped out. > Sorry you missed it the first time around. It seemed > noteworthy and evidently has passed. If it has passed, why do you keep quoting it in your "indexing" posts? BTW, for those who insist that the idea of MMY's essence continuing to exist out in the ether in some sense goes against his own teaching that all individuality disappears when an enlightened person dies, I wonder how they would explain the puja to Guru Dev, as well as this from MMY's Gita commentary: The holy tradition of great masters, which is responsible for reviving the teaching after every lapse, has captured the mind and heart of lovers of Truth in every age. It is not merely held in high regard, but has come to be actually worshipped by seekers of Truth and knowers of Reality. A verse* recording the names of the greatest and most highly revered masters has not only inspired seekers, but has been a joy even to the fulfilled hearts of realized souls passing through the long corridor of time. * See Appendix [which quotes the puja]. --Commentary to 4:2 in MMY's Gita translation (copyright 1967)
