--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" <seekliberat...@...> wrote: > > > > > > For Americans it always seems they cry and cry about their soldiers who > > signed up willingly for a dangerous job, but ignore all the hundreds of > > thousands of innocents killed as if these people being killed are not > > humans > > yes, Americans are cry babies about a lot of things. You are only hitting the tip of the iceburg there. > > Regarding deaths as a result of America, there is a lot of genocide that has been going on throughout the world in the last 10-20 years. For whatever reason, it doesn't reach headlines. Sudan, Rwanda, Burma, and several other places in Africa and southeast Asia have been intentionally wiping out entire villages in the same way the Soviets did in Afghanistan in the 80's. >
And the Americans did in the 2000's. << Once again, not trying to start an argument here. Overall, you and I don't see things quite as differently as it seems. I am all about withdrawing from the war now. But it is only because I don't really see our forces really trying to win. The only units that are really equipped to win the war in Afghanistan are Army green berets and Marsoc, but Marsoc to a lesser extent. They have been working with local villages and building up the Afghanistan infrastructure, economy, and way of life. This makes it impossible for Taliban to remain there or gain any trust of the local population, which is why they're all in Pakistan now. Now Obama wants to go into Pakistan, and I don't think he really knows what he's getting into. It's going to be 'Operation Anoconda' all over again.....really ugly. That place will be out of control, and American soldiers are already burnt out as it is. Americans, much like the british in history, have always relied on conventional and technological advantage and don't do so well in UW (unconventional warfare). The brits have lost 2 wars in Afghanistan, Alexander the great lost, and the Soviets lost also. Genghis Khan had a successful battle once, but never really conquered the country. Nobody ever has. Moreover, the whole Afghan government is entirely corrupt. I believe this war is unwinnable. > Obama just sent in the Marines. 3 years after Bush was asked for 22,000 more troops by generals in Afghanistan, Obama is the one to fulfil that request, while the Republicans refused it. Obama was given a sinking ship on all fronts (war and economy) and he is doing the right thing on most things. Stop the ship sinking, then change things slowly and carefully. Of course no-one can save the mess that Bush made (by diverting troops and treasure to the illegal war in Iraq), but Obama has to try and this new surge will work. But it will not solve the problem completely. Obama knows that. He is smart. Not like the last bunch of crooks. So he will make headway, and then slowly pull back from these wars. He will do it slowly and meticulously, He is the best Commander in Chief for decades. > Thanks for the history lesson. I am well aware of the false pretense of American history. In addition to the Revolutionary/Independance War, the Civil War has many conspiracy theories behind it as well.> That was not a conspiracy theory I cited. That was to rectify 200 years of revisionist history and brain-washing in America. Those were facts. <<I've read sources that claim Abraham Lincoln never cared about slavery so much as he cared about the United States becoming divided. Marine Corps history that is taught in our boot camp is full of a lot of shit too. I have a friend who plans to run for congress shortly after he retires from the military. He has done quite a bit of research and has shown me sources to look up regarding the reality of past Marine Corps history. Everything he's shown indicates that the Marine Corps has been living off of a false reputation for at least 3-4 decades, if not much longer. (i'm not saying it's entirely false, but a lot of things are blown way out of proportion).>> The Marine Crops ultimately work for the Queen of England according to some theories ;-) > With the exception of a few minor conflicts and reaction to terrorism, I believe WWI and WWII were probably the only true honorable wars we fought in. However, there are even conspiracy theories out there that WWII could've been avoided as well. I don't have time to get into them though.> Yes, and the historical fact (not theory) that GW Bush's grandfather helped fund the rise of Hitler would make a GREAT movie. The whole thing could be fascinating - but would need to be at least 3 hours long and a lot of historical research including how some bigwigs in America plotted to overthrow the US government to stop a move towards humanity - I mean caring about others - I mean socialism. Just tell your superiors to learn TM and teach the troops the sidhis. Don't take no for an answer. Peace. (and keep practicing that mawashigeri.) OffWorld > peace out > > seekliberation >
