--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > > > In other words, we still don't know anything.
> > > > 
> > > > Exactly my point also
> > > 
> > > I understand the two key points as mentioned here are 1)Rove's 
> > > clearance and 2)whether or not Plame was covert CIA. 
> > > 
> > > I was researching the point about Rove's clearance, and came 
> across a 
> > > news item that said Sen. Reid (D-NV), Minority Leader, had 
> debated 
> > > legislation on the floor of the Senate that called for revoking 
> Rove's 
> > > security clearance. I looked everywhere for a transcript of this 
> > > debate, including the Congressional Record, but couldn't find it. 
> I'll 
> > > look again today.
> > > 
> > > In any case, if legislation was introduced to revoke Rove's 
> clearance, 
> > > doesn't that suggest Rove has the appopriate clearance to look up 
> info 
> > > on covert agents?
> > 
> > No not at all. There are many levels of clearances. His may or may 
> not
> > cover knowing the IDs of CIA ops (a very very secret thing -- not
> > granted easily).
> 
> Sigh. Have you ever had a security clearance?

No. But I bet you did. My father did (he caught the first german spy
entering NY upon the start of WWw II.) My gret uncle was one of the
founding memebers of the  OSS along with Donovan. An uncle was a
multi-star general in the Air Force with multiple clearances. We all
talked deep spy stuff around the dinner table at family gatherings. 
But ALL of that appears irrelevent. 

I did just finish reading "The secret war of Chrlie wilson" which was
in good part about the inner workings of the CIA. And various levels
of CIA clearnaces were apparent then, in the 80s. Has that changed?

By your sigh are you implying that there is one level of clearance for
all intell. Tell us from your wh clearnce to do some programming how
the deep and vast level of clearances REALLY works.  








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