--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I'm not sure whether you're trying to pull
> > > > > a fast one, or are just DEEPLY confused.  I
> > > > > strongly suspect the former.
> > > > 
> > > > Gee, no other options?
> > > 
> > > None that I can think of, no.
> > > 
> > > As I say, if it's confusion, let
> > > me know when you get it cleared up.
> > > (You should have, by this time, if
> > > you're reading all the posts here.)
> > 
> > Well the limitations of your mind are showing Judy. Read it a few 
> > more times. There is a deeper truth illustrated in that post that 
> > may be of value to you.
> 
> Look, buddy, you were trying to score a point,
> and in your eagerness to do so, you either 
> screwed up badly 

I thought you left this convo about 8 posts ago. 

In the discussion in question, to tell you the truth Judy, your words
were ambiguous to me. I did, without checking the wording, with all
honest intent, state that you had acknowledged that I had read "IT".
Upon checking, I saw that "IT" could be interpreted as one of several
things. i was referring to one context -- which was accurate, and it
appears from your vile, you were referring to another context. 

The take-away is that words, particularly when pronouns are used, can
be interpreted by a group of different readers in a variety of ways.
To claim the ones own interpretation is "self-evident" and all others
are just studid, -- well such an attitude speaks for itself.  

With good intent, I took some time to craft a response that upon
reading several times, you may find some interesting insights. If you
care not to, thats fine. If you care to disparage it or me, thats
fine. If you care to beat your chest and let out a tarzan yell, thats
fine. 

Its funny that you throw around such heavy words, "you screwed up
badly" regarding someones precieved misunderstanding of your precious
words. It shows how tightly you must feel ownership of your thoughts
and ideas, how they form a part of your essential identity. 

For most I have come across who do that, they feel very threatened
when someone attacks their ideas. And lose the joy and benefit of
being open to change, refinement and growth of the ideas that happen
to run through their heads.

None of your slurs seem to fit. (And I do wonder why you appear to
pump out as many ad homenun attacks against people who disagree with
you as actual discussion points.) 

I am neither confused, have not screwed up badly, nor am I trying to
pull a fast one. But if it makes you feel better, I will get up and
dance with a chicken suit on, reciting shakespeare backwards -- or any
other things I can do to look silly in your eyes and make you feel
grand and superior. In fact just to short-curcuit all ad homenum
attacks in the future, let me stipulate up front that I think Judy
Stein is a superior being and way better and superior to me in every
way, and I am a simple no good undeserving fool.

Ok now tht we have that out of the way, maybe we can focus on ideas.

I could not find the Blitz Wilson Transcript on CNN, but I got the
video clip -- which has a lot more context and nuance than a
transcript anyway. Interesting in several regards. 

The most amazing one is that in listening to the questions and
resposnes, there is FAR more ambiguity in Wilson's response than I had
imagined. That you can go on and on for 8 posts honking to the world
how clear and self-evident the words in context, when in listening in
context they are clearly open-ended,  is simply phenomenal.

I invite all to view the 11 min clip (see videos half way down). It
brings up a lot of other good points. But it is particulalry
insightful to see how ambiguous and open-ended the 'clandestine'
operative issue is left.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/15/cia.leak.rove.ap/index.html







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