--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > <snip> > > I watched Greer's video. The thing that I found fascinating > > about it was his claim that he can "vector" them in, make > > them arrive at a certain location, communicate with them > > with his consciousness and train people to do this. I'd like > > to see him do this in Fairfield. We could sell tickets as a > > fund raiser like we did for the Beach Boys' concert this > > summer. David Lynch should sign on for it. Seriously, I'd > > really like to see a demonstration of his vectoring abilities. > > Sheesh, that's all the TMO needs! >
Agreed. My comment was partly snark and partly wish. Mostly, I'm just curious exactly what his technique is for "vectoring." > I have no idea what it is Greer is doing, but I seriously > doubt it's what he *thinks* he's doing. This is where > I suspect the fantasies kick in. > Right. When someone starts talking about getting information from "lucid dreaming" you know the fantasies have kicked in. > > I'm easily swayed by conspiracy theories so I'm inclined > > to believe his claims about the existence of Unacknowledged > > Special Access Programs, covert activities of a "shadow > > government" so secret that even Bill Clinton and his CIA > > guys were forbidden access to information about UFO's. > > Apparently Greer met with the Clintons and his CIA director > > about getting access to the USAP but they thought it was too > > dangerous to force disclosure. Perhaps Greer stretches > > credulity at this point but I'm still willing to give him > > the benefit of the doubt. > > My credulity doesn't stretch that far. I doubt he "met > with the Clintons." Representatives, at best. I don't > believe the president and the CIA were "forbidden access" > to anything. I think that's his interpretation of whatever > it was they *did* say. Just as a common-sense matter, > if it were true, they wouldn't have told *him* that, for > pete's sake. > Did you see the part where he says Hillary shut down a conversation about disclosure saying it was "too dangerous?" I thought here we go again, blame Hillary. Greer's vibe is positively cultish. He says Obama's name reverently. I suspect he's a kool aid drinker. He's devoted his entire life to UFO's and bodybuilding, an interesting combination. I'd say he pretty fanatical character, so it's easy to dismiss him. Call me naive, but, except for politicians, I like to take people at their word. I don't think Greer knowingly lies, but perhaps his fantasies and wishful thinking cause him to stretch the truth. > If anybody ever actually said it was "too dangerous," > what they meant was, "We don't know what the f*ck is > going on here, and it would be dangerous for us to > admit that we weren't on top of everything." > True. No president wants to admit they were caught with their pants down, Bill Clinton, cases in point. (Sorry, cheap shot.) > I'm suspicious of anybody who isn't utterly > confounded by the evidence, such as it is. The more > you know, the less comprehensible it becomes. > > > Greer implies he has been in contact with the Obama > > administration about disclosing UFO secrets. > > "In contact with" can mean anything. It could mean he > sent them a letter and got a form response back. > > I really didn't find Greer convincing (although, as I said, > I missed about the middle third of his presentation--maybe > I'll go back and watch again and try to stay awake through > the whole thing.) > Good luck with that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPw6QBSggls > Interestingly, at St. Gabes on Christmas Eve Father Tom, in the context of a > sermon he gave about religious diversity said that the Vatican recently > announced it had an interest in a scientific and religious dialogue about the > implications of extraterrestrial life. So I Googled the topic and found an > article that seems to support Greer's claim that Obama administration and the > UN desire to disclose information about UFO's but military agencies such as > the British Ministry of Defence (MOD) want to shut it down. > > > > "In an apparent set back for secret official efforts to announce the > > existence of extraterrestrial life, the British Ministry of Defence (MOD) > > has just closed its UFO desk. After 50 years of having an official > > reporting mechanism in place for public sightings of UFOs, a spokesman for > > the Ministry of Defence stated that the funds could be better used for the > > Afghanistan war. What is the impact of the British MOD decision to close > > its UFO desk? Why was such an announcement made now given that only a > > trivial amount of public funds (44,000 pounds/US$73,000 a year) will be > > saved on an issue that generates strong public passion? Is this a simple > > administrative decision on an issue that genuinely involves no national > > security factor; or a cynical move by a powerful British based national > > security faction to influence and/or impede coordinated international > > efforts to disclose the existence of extraterrestrial life?" > > > > Read more: > > http://snipurl.com/tuy3u > > http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m12d5-British-MOD-closes-UFO-desk--impact-on-extraterrestrial-disclosure >
