Thank you Rick, for the clarification of false and real Guru, explained by Amma. It is exactly what I have had in mind. Ingegerd
> Amma never criticizes other gurus by name, but she is outspoken about the > principles she expects a guru to abide by. Here's something I found on > another forum: > > Amma quote > > Someone posted the following on the Amma chat group and I¹m posting it here > as it pertains to various recent and past threads here. > > "A true Spiritual Master is beyond the mind and the ego. In such a > master, all the sexual energy has been converted into pure vital > energy, which he or she uses for the ultimate good of the world...All > desires exist in the mind. Once the mind is dissolved, there can be > no question of having any desires. In that state no desire remains. > The so-called gurus who exploit their disciples--sexually or > otherwise, or who try to force their ideas on people are not true > masters--far from it! They are still strongly identified with their > minds and desires..." > > "A true master, even though he or she is beyond all laws and > limitations, must strictly adhere to moral and ethical codes." > > "...A number of the Westerners she had healed had suffered from > betrayal by spiritual leaders who abused them financially, sexually > or emotionally. Spiritual betrayal is one of the deepest wounds that > one can inflict on another, and one of the hardest to heal. Amma says > that many have lost their faith in spiritual masters and spirituality > because of these incidents. But she has counseled those so wounded > not to lose faith or give up hope--that the energy they devoted to > their spiritual practice, even under a false master, was not wasted. > She says: "The power you have acquired through your spiritual > practices is still there, because...what you have gained through your > own efforts cannot be lost. Only being in the presence of a Self- > Realized master can heal the deep wounds of the heart, which have > been caused by a false guru or spiritual teacher." > > "A person so healed of spiritual betrayal will receive the necessary > strength to prevent them from ever being hurt again, because they > will no longer be vulnerable to those psychological wounds. Sincere > seekers who have the mental strength, courage and spiritual > understanding to overcome their initial shock and disappointment, > realize that they made an unfortunate mistake in trusting a false > teacher. The genuine seeker will immediately leave the false teacher > and search for a perfect master who can lead him or her to the goal > of God-Realization. Such a seeker will certainly find a real master. > The master will appear in his or her life, without them having to > wander about looking for a teacher. This will happen because of the > disciple's sincerity amd intense longing..." > > Here, without naming names, Amma has clearly described the false > teacher and what they do, and the effects of what they do, and her > healing function in these cases, in recognizable terms. Most seekers, > at least in the West, have either been betrayed by one or more of the > many such false spiritual teachers, with cults of enthusiastic > followers, who exhibit certain siddhis along with binding spiritual > experiences, or are otherwise aware of those who have experienced > such betrayal, and who are therefore rightly sensitive to any hint of > scandal by so-called enlightened gurus. Most experienced people by > now are aware that spiritual experiences are not proof of > enlightenment; that enthusiastic devotees talking about how great the > experiences are, describing unverifiable "proofs", and with elaborate > rationalizations, can be found in many cults; that sometime gurus > have "secrets"; and that organizational problems can exist even > around 'real' Gurus. To not discuss the information needed to address > concerns promptly and directly, or to not recognize possible cultic > tendencies of avoidance simply because Amma is 'real', is > insufficient, IMO. > > Many outside this group value Amma while remaining vigilant about > cultic aspects in the organization. And, I know of an extreme case, > discussed on another forum, where someone became disillusioned during > Devi Bhava because of the crowd control practices despite a sense of > the benign presence. Others may come, take a look at all the goods > being sold, and at Amma driving up in an expensive vehicle, have no > knowledge of the finances and if they are used as advertised, and > have reasonable concerns because there are classic cultic appearances > in public gatherings. If charges are made and the correct information > is not rapidly available to respond, many people will draw > inferrences from their own past experiences, valid or not. > > "Only being in the presence of a Self-Realized master can heal the > deep wounds of the heart, which have been caused by a false guru or > spiritual teacher." I believe doing what serves facilitating those so > previously harmed to be in Amma's presence to be healed by > recognizing when to simply tell the truth about Amma in response to > these allegations s appropriate service. But to do this, the full > truth must be discussed and known, and any problems resolved to the > best of the collective ability. 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