--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> 
wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> 
> I got your point but that wasn't what interested me.

Uh-huh.

Was what interested you really the notion that I
wasn't aware till now that Barry claims he says stuff
just to piss me off?

Because you and I have been around that block several
times now. As you know, I don't believe it for a
nanosecond, at least the "just" part. He also wants
other readers to take it seriously; and he doesn't do
it only because he finds it "entertaining," he does it
because it *enrages* him that I see through him, and
he has to release some of that anger or he'll
incinerate himself.

"Just to piss Judy off" is his *excuse* for constantly
demonizing me, including all the falsehoods.

Plus which, of course, he doesn't demonize and tell
falsehoods *just* about me. The post I was originally
commenting on was about John. In fact, you'll find
very, very few posts of his that don't demonize
somebody or some group. As I said before, that's his
M.O., that's what he *does* here.

(You got a little taste of it not long ago regarding
your views on homeopathy, and you didn't like it much.
He forgot himself there for a minute, but he backed
off when you stood up to him; he doesn't want to lose
one of his few allies here. Unless you think he was
just having fun pissing *you* off to see how you'd
react.)

In any case, Atrios does not, of course, believe for
a nanosecond that the right-wingers are just trying to
piss off liberals. Nor does he believe they make stupid
arguments because *they're* stupid. It's because they
know there are quite a few people stupid enough to take
them seriously. If they piss off liberals into the
bargain, that's a side benefit, but it isn't the goal.

They *want* people to believe Obama is a "socialist
ideologue"; they *want* people to believe in "death
panels"; they *want* people to believe Obama wasn't
born in the U.S.; they *want* people to believe a big
snowstorm disproves global warming. They know better,
but they are confident many among their audience do
not. In other words, they're unscrupulous, cynical
liars.

And so are some of the TM critics on FFL, Barry most
prominent among them. As with the right-wingers,
some among the TM critics' audience find their lies
and demonizations convincing, especially when the
critics reinforce each other.

The one thing the right-wingers *don't* do is claim
they're saying this stuff just to piss off liberals.
They know *nobody* would be stupid enough to believe
that.


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