--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > That's all Rick said about Maharishi in the article. All. 
> > 
> > No , the article, which was based on his kind of thinking and I 
> > believe possible even instigated by him , or the reporter knew 
him 
> > and thought it was time for a story like that. Which is fine by 
me.
> > I was talking about his friend whom the article insulted because 
as 
> > far as I remember the article went on to say that Amma is a 
> > philanthropist and Maharishi is a money grabber. Where did the 
> > reporter get this thining? 
> 
> Well, duh...could it possibly be that the reporter
> was a normal, thinking person?  Given the two modus
> operandi of the two teachers, and no emotional 
> attachment to either, who could NOT get that idea?
> 
> > This is an insult based on small 
> > thinking, poor logic, and unsubstantiated rumor.
> 
> I disagree.  I think that this is a conclusion that
> *any* thinking person would come to, given nothing
> more than the way the two teachers "do business" 
> and what they charge for their services.  
> 
> I have no idea what you are referring to as "unsub-
> stantiated rumor."  NO rumor, substantiated or not, 
> would be necessary for your normal man-off-the-street 
> to susect that Maharishi was a bit of a money-grubber.  
> You could learn that much just from the articles that
> make it into the mainstream press.
> 
> > As I pointed out in previous post Maharishi has spent 40 years in 
> > the endeavor of education millions of people. Thousands, possibly 
> > tens of thousands (at least that is Maharishi's goal) will attend 
> > schools and universities created by Maharishi. (they are also fed 
> > there). Education is the only way to help people...not handouts 
and 
> > hugs.
> 
> If it really happens, I shall be the first to applaud
> it.  So far, I haven't seen any convincing evidence
> that it has happened on a large scale so far, or that
> it is likely to happen on a large scale in the future.
> 
> It hasn't happened on a large scale while he was alive,
> and I don't necessarily believe that the people who
> are in charge of his money (the nephews, not the TMO)
> are going to make it happen once he's gone.  I would
> LOVE to be proved wrong about this.  I would LOVE to
> see every penny spent on education and teaching people
> to meditate.  I would LOVE to see pigs fly.
> 
> > So the article of which Rick is probably the partial inspirer of, 
> > even if he may not know it (the reporter has probbaly been a 
reader 
> > of FFL for a long time, and no doubt Rick has been in 
> > correspondence with him/her or an associate of hers).
> 
> What was that you were saying earlier about unsub-
> stantiated rumor?  :-)
> 
> > If someone creates a free education for people, (like in India 
and 
> > other places), or even somewhat free, then when someone calls 
them 
> > a money grabber, it is kind of absurd. And it is based on 
> > irrationality and prejudice.
> 
> No, it is based on numbers.  How MANY kids were educated
> by the TMO millions, possibly billions?  How MANY schools
> have actually been built?  How MANY times has Maharishi
> been to any of these schools to see how well his great
> work is going?  THESE are the kinds of questions reporters
> ask.  And they should.
> 

What people miss is that buildings HAVE been built. There was an 
entire complex built in India which proved to be illegal so it was 
razed, IIRC (they gambled that they could get the zoning approved 
after-the-fact and they were wrong). There were other buildings built 
that were abandoned because the timing or concept was wrong (the 
Maharishi Ayurveda center in India where near-death patients were 
supposed to be brought miraculously back to life, as a for instance).

Other plans have fallen through due to poor planning or communication 
or lack of local support (San Pao, I believe?). LEt's not forget the 
Vedaland idea. The people involved in that were completely sincere. 
MMY procured the land, but they could never get the funding to build 
it.

On the other hand, the Organic farms thing in Vedic City appears to 
be on-track, as is the organic farms thing in MUM itself. A network 
of Maharishi Organic Vedic farms could become a very profitable 
endeavor, and completely life-supporting at all levels, as far as I 
can tell.


> I don't really know the numbers.  The only contact I have
> with the TMO these days is this forum and a.m.t., neither
> of which I trust as authoritative.  There might be thousands
> of such schools right now in India.  But I've really only
> heard about one or two.  Those one or two could have been
> paid for by the interest on the interest of the TMO millions.
> Where did the rest go?


There is at least one licensed charity for building world peace-
related buildings  with assets listed:

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/search.summary/orgid/546
5/print/1.htm
 
Maharishi Global Development Fund 
Promoting healthy housing, health and peace   

Rating: 2-star (out of 4)

Revenue   
Primary Revenue $12,460,175 
Other Revenue $795,348 
Total Revenue: $13,255,523 
Expenses   
Program Expenses $23,911,963 
Administration Expenses $1,293,384 
Fundraising Expenses $15,794 
Total Functional Expenses: $25,221,141 
   
Payments to Affiliates $0 
Excess (or Deficit) for the Year $-11,965,618 
   
Net Assets: $183,751,005 







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