so then thats why some consider it a good test of a new gem to judge by the 
dreams you get when you put it on , that is telling you how it affects the 9th 
(also luck

--- In [email protected], "John" <jr_...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> > > 
> > > I don't see the analogy breaking down but our OS can, the
> > > two interact more in the human body than in the computer. 
> > > We have the feedback system of the fight/flight response 
> > > for instance so we can be scared of things that aren't real
> > > and it'll be the same as if they were. 
> > > 
> > > If you don't take the analogy that far and think of some-
> > > thing like the TM explanation of mental activity, it doesn't
> > > have any actual parallel in the mind but we accept it as a 
> > > good explanation regardless. It's a software option that 
> > > thinks it knows how the machine that supports it functions 
> > > but doesn't really and it doesn't affect *how* the machine 
> > > runs because it's job is just - in the case of consciousness 
> > > - to allow the creation of metaphors and patterns out of
> > > those metaphors, which is what all our thoughts are.
> > > 
> > > The job of science here is to let us know which of the maps
> > > we create corresponds to what's actually happening.
> > 
> > I'm very dubious that we can make a definitive
> > distinction between creating patterns out of
> > metaphors, on the one hand, and knowing what's
> > "actually happening," on the other. How do we
> > know our notions of what's actually happening
> > aren't really just more of those same metaphors
> > and patterns? There's no such thing as pure
> > information--there's always an interpretation
> > involved, always some pattern-making.
> 
> FWIW, in jyotish, dreams are part of the field of higher knowledge, the 9th 
> house.  Dreams are considered the work activity during our sleeping 
> conscious, just as our careers/professions are the activities during our 
> waking consciousness.  As such, these dreams are influenced by the planets 
> that are placed in the 9th house at birth or are transiting the house at the 
> present time.  For example, a benefic planet like Jupiter, a significator of 
> a biped, would cause dreams to be about a person or people.
>


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