--- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
<snip>
> > I'm not even talking about the *political*
> > aspects; we've known about the TMO's, and
> > MMY's, sexism for decades.  I'm talking about
> > the practical effect of the absence of the
> > feminine vibe among the Rajas in terms of
> > whatever effect *they're* supposed to have on
> > world consciousness.
>  
> ******
> 
> Your observations and question seem perfectly reasonable to me. I 
think the crux of the 
> answer lies in your own words: "Â…whatever effect they're supposed 
to have on world 
> consciousness".
> 
> Personally, I think there's not much to worry about in terms of the 
movement's effects on 
> world consciousness, because I don't see it having much of an 
effect at this point.
> 
> [Not a trick question:] Do you see the movement having any
> significant effect on world consciousness at the moment?

*I* don't, no.  Would I be able to see it if there
were one? I don't know; quite possibly not, especially
if we're limiting it to "at the moment."

> If not at 
> this time, when was the last point at which you felt 
> you could observe something of significance?

The fall of the Soviet Union and a bunch of
other highly unlikely positive events that 
happened within a fairly short span of time.

Not long afterward, a prophetic essay was
published that got a lot of attention, pointing
out that the fall of the Soviet Union had
eliminated the "balance of terror" between the
two superpowers that was keeping international
conflicts in check, and that we would likely
be in for some serious trouble in the next
decades.

I immediately connected that with what MMY
had always said, that things would get worse
before getting permanently better.

I would also note that MMY's programs have
never had the level of participation he had
said was required to bring about permanent
change for the better.

On the basis of all this, I'm not prepared to
declare that these programs have not had or
cannot have an effect on world consciousness.
I don't declare the opposite, either.  I just
don't know.





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