Hi again authfriend,
Sometimes I'm dense and I'm not even blonde; though I do carry some
gray. ;-)  I still don't get the player/scorecard thingee and that's
o.k.  For some reason when I read it I think of golf and handicaps.  I
don't know why I have golf on the brain.
Anyhoo....
Michael Shermer is pretty well known.  He is the founder of Sceptic
Magazine.  I've only read part of one of his books, and am enjoying it. 
I get the impression from the book that he leans toward agnostism, yet
I've also heard he's an atheist.  Doesn't matter much to me. I like his
approach in the book I'm reading which is "How We Believe...."
<https://www.skeptic.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?&Screen=PROD&Store_Code=\
SS&Product_Code=b063PB>   I'm interested in cultures and how they
develop and how people relate, thus his studies in that field I find
interesting along with the psychology.That's about my extent on Shermer.
He's one of the guys that recently (with Sam Harris) debated Deepak
Chopra and Jean Houston.
Tom Talbott is a retired philosophy professor and a Christian
Universalist.  I'm more familiar with Talbott than I am with Shermer,
simply because of where I've come from in the belief category.  He too
discusses cultures, psychology, religion. Following are links regarding
Talbott's thoughts:http://www.willamette.edu/~ttalbott/theol.html
<http://www.willamette.edu/~ttalbott/theol.html> 
http://www.willamette.edu/~ttalbott/phil.html
<http://www.willamette.edu/~ttalbott/phil.html> 
http://www.thomastalbott.com/ <http://www.thomastalbott.com/>
They came to mind regarding one's faith/true belief coming under
scrutiny.
I don't know if that tells you very much.
btw: I lean more toward agnosticism these days.  I was thinking today
that I'm a follower of  HAA.  Humanistic Apathetic Agnosticism; ie:
belief in humanism with the 'golden rule' and can't do anything about
whether there is or isn't a god so I'm not that concerned about it.
Thanks!~carol :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Carol. No problem, thanks for the clarification.
>
> By "scorecard" I didn't mean scoring in the sense of
> points, but rather in the sense of "You can't tell the
> players without a scorecard."
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" jchwelch@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi authfriend,
> > Actually, I didn't even have you in mind when I wrote what
> > I wrote.  I was thinking more about the priest, and that
> > he'd possibly laugh at what curtis said. And I was thinking
> > about a couple authors I've read, Tom Talbott & Michael
> > Shermer.
>
> Say more about these chaps and their writing, if you would...
>
> > My apologies that what I typed apparently came across as
> > an accusation(of sorts) toward you.  I don't know you, nor
> > anyone in this discourse for that matter (what I've read
> > of it), at least that I'm aware of.
> >
> > I pretty much endeavor to take folks at face value, without
> > being naive.
> >
> > I'm really not into score cards. Well, except when I play
> > miniature golf.   I like the little pencils.
> > :-)
>
> <grin>
>
> Glad to have you with us.
>
> > Or Rummy or Scrabble or Crazy 8s. Score cards.
> > Cheers!~carol
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" jchwelch@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > My name is Carol.  I'm mainly an occasional lurker here and
> > > > recently joined the board to maybe, perhaps, at some time
> > > > jump in on a TM discussion or ask a question or two.
> > > > When I read Curtis's response about the cannibalism, I thought
> > > > it was hilarious.  Yes, I realize that his response would
> > > > offend some TB TMOers and RCs.  But hey, if a TB can't take a
> > > > satire (with layers, of course) about his/her beliefs, well
> > > > then, the beliefs aren't that substantial...are they?  Maybe
> > > > they need more tran-substantiation. ;-)
> > >
> > > For the record, I'm neither an RC nor a TB TMer. It's
> > > always a good idea to make sure your scorecard is filled
> > > out before you jump into a new group.
>

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