--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: > > I think an appropriate "deeper, probing question" might > be along the lines of "What has being 'the center of the > universe' ever done for anyone except yourself?" > > There *might* be some interesting answers to this. If > there are, *that* might interest those who care about > other human beings in the concept of "everyday enlight- > enment." If it's just "feelgood stories," as tartbrain > has said more eloquently than I before, I don't see > these stories appealing to anyone who isn't "Only in > it for the self."
I don't recall characterizing them as feel good stories ( i may have -- lots of posts recently) -- just not so interesting for a prolonged listen. But on Edg's advice, I read a thread in which he engaged one of the people on the Pump list, and it was interesting. So I posted some questions, and the members have been very nice, supportive, helpful. And they have some good insights. So I probably sampled too few posts to draw a strong conclusion. Same with the video and tapes. I will give them another go in a few days or this weekend. Some posts may be a bit intellectual, but dome are on here are also. So, I have a new view of things over yonder. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > I think all of that is good. However, as stated, I have not found it very > > interesting, yet. I have not listened as extensively as you, and there may > > be great gems that I missed. However, others seem to be having the same > > problem as I -- in maintaining interest. Perhaps these > > may be raw feeds that need a bit of editing -- with the whole left for > > those that want full access. > > > > And as I have suggested in several posts, some deeper probing, while > > considerate and sensitive to the fact that these are very personal stories, > > would be useful. For example, a Curtis type (Curtis, you are an archetype > > already!) examining the statements in an epistimological framework would be > > fascinating, IMO. And, bold claims, such as "I experienced being the > > center of the universe" deserve a bit more follow-up -- not just "Gee that > > s great". > > > > Perhaps you can share the segments, experiences, ideas from the tapes that > > you found most interesting. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <mainstream20016@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > For more than two weeks I have repeatedly and closely listened to the > > > BATGAP episodes via iTunes downloads via a portable iPod. The BATGAP > > > episodes are a fascinating record of the personal histories and > > > subjective perspectives of persons who have courage to publicly discuss > > > permanently established positive shifts in awareness. Here-to-fore, an > > > individual's declaration of a permanent shift in awareness called into > > > question the validity of the experience. Rick Archer and the BATGAP > > > interviewees promote egalitarian principles of experience and expression > > > of higher states of awareness. BATGAP is a vehicle for positive cultural > > > advancement by diminishing the influence of exploitive individuals and > > > hierarchical institutions that for control purposes employ excessively > > > exclusive principles of experience and expression by default and > > > discourage members' advancement. > > > -Mainstream > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > > > <steve.sundur@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > And the yahoo group -- I read a 20 or so posts. The posters are way > > > > > into their heads -- it would appear from their posts. Dry > > > > > expositions. > > > > > While a small sample, i don't see the energy, vibrancy, life surging > > > > > from their words. > > > > > > > > > Hard to strike gold twice. FFL with all it's problems has some good > > > > edg (edge) and gets into some interesting discussions. But I think > > > > you've pretty well nailed this Buddha at the Gas Pump. And those > > > > interviews-I've only listened to the Foster's piece, but there wasn't > > > > much there to make me want to push on. Then again, I don't have time > > > > to do a lot of speculative exploring. > > > > > > > > > >
