What I can't figure out is, who would really want to talk about themselves like 
this?  It's kind of like talking about your sex life.  It's sort of personal 
thing.  Sometimes these types of experiences come up in conversations here, but 
usually as side bar, not the main dish.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> Gotta agree. I love the concept of the project, but
> I've been bored senseless by the people themselves,
> for almost exactly the reasons tartbrain puts into
> words so well below. As for the Yahoo discussion
> group, "way into their heads" is too kind. One 
> visit was enough. I can't see most "people on the
> street" viewing these interviews and seeing that
> much difference between Buddhas at the Gas Pump
> and Bubba at the Gas Pump.
> 
> That said, I look forward to other interviews, in
> the hope that one or more of them will stand out.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > I started to watch the 4 videos on you tube -- an then sampled the audios 
> > on the blog -- listening to segments of about 10 contributors. While all 
> > nice people, there was not much compelling material in the hour of so I 
> > listened. Certainly there could be great gems hidden in the material I 
> > passed over. But I got bored with most. 
> > 
> > Perhaps an unfair parallel, but the energy, tone, insights, vibrancy, love 
> > for the universe, cascading love for others was not there. It was as if I 
> > could have been listening to a show on people who found Jesus. They may 
> > have had and are having a transformational experience. But its not apparent 
> > how it has really affected their lives in deep and profound ways.  I came 
> > away thinking, I wouldn't spend much time on what ever they are doing -- 
> > the value is not manifesting in their lives. Similar to my impressions of 
> > those testifying for Jesus. 
> > 
> > They may be having profound experiences -- being he center of the universe 
> > and all. These experiences may actually be real -- though there is a large 
> > distance  in establishing that -- for themselves and for any listeners. Not 
> > that they have to prove anything. But I have friends who experienced the 
> > same with psychedelics -- center of the universe, egoless states and all. I 
> > am not sure that was real, not sure that it wasn't. But they did not do 
> > much with the experience. It may have shifted them in good ways. The 
> > experienced of egolessness is profound and can be lasting. But it was not 
> > transformational in the sense of some blazing persons I know or have been 
> > with.
> > 
> > But these Pump people, have little of the -- and this is hard to articulate 
> > -- vibrancy of life, humor, quickness of mind, flowing insights, shakti, 
> > glow, spontenaity that others I know, have seen, have. For the latter, I am 
> >  inspired by them to obtain what they have. From the Pump people, I have no 
> > aspiration to obtain what they have -- from what I have heard thus far.
> > 
> > And these things I listed are outer things, perhaps superficial, and 
> > meaningless with regards to inner states. however, I know the THING -- it 
> > may be weak and transitory -- but I think we all know the clarity, energy, 
> > clearness that can come from that THING. and I have seen the THING ripely 
> > manifest in others. And I don't see it much in these people. 
> > 
> > And the yahoo group -- I read a 20 or so posts. The posters are way into 
> > their heads -- it would appear from their posts. Dry expositions. 
> > While a small sample, i don't see the energy, vibrancy, life surging from 
> > their words.
> >
>


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