Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Honest answers (was comments on Gable's editorial)

[Llundrub]

---Actually your reification of 'cult-like' thinking takes place upon some assumed superior conceptual framework where 'cult-like' has some meaning.  However, viewing the situation without labels one would immediately see that there is no TMO at all, there are many diifferent people and not much in common, besides basic TM practice. People are free to reiterate whichever aspect of the 'Vedic Science' - 'SCI' - whathaveyou, as they wish. The only thing barring them is money.  Even Robin Carlson would be allowed back into the TMO if he had the bucks. So don't pretend that your view is superior as "it's merely a comment on what's being seen."  One only sees what they see, and everything else is merely conceptualization. Free your mind. It was merely a comment of black and white thinking--the subject being discussed. When people comment on it, it will show that quality, that' s all. You always seem to want to assume others are putting labels on things as you add the labels yourself. Just because you assume "evil" or "hatred" or whatever does not mean that is what the speaker intended--it's your label. Whatever. Label on Lludrub.   ----I don't think I ever used the words "evil" or "hatred."   What's ironic to me is that you always are assuming I said something which I didn't say, to which you then respond, while you never actually read what I say.  I suggest that much of what you interpret as others misinterpeting you is produced by your misinterpreting them.   For instance I was commenting that you cannot have cult-like thinking without defining what a cult is. Then one merely lumps some organization into their preconceptual framework and says, "it's merely a comment on what's being seen." I always find this ironic coming from a person who supposedly practices trekchod, that is, someone who can cut through all conceptual bullshit to see what exists.  It's obvious that no such thing as a TMO exists. If you say, "not" then please show me exactly where the TMO lies?    Is it SIMS, MIMS, PIMS, or MIU, MUM, or Capitols for the World, or Supreme Intelligence, Council of Nine, Maharishi, Bevan, Neil, John? India, Fairfield? Where exactly is the TMO and what exactly does it stand for?  The TMO is only now being defined, but such definition isn't stable.   It's sad that all I am trying always to do with you Vaj is show that you are stuck in a conceptual framework of your own making. I am not showing that you are good or evil. I am merely showing that in spite of high falutin and often specious esotericism you are no different from anyone else here, myself included. We are all just labeling things.   I actually am certain that TMO is a cult, but then so is every other schism of thought on Earth.  Including little old ladies who cut out coupons to supposedly save on their groceries. The honest fact is that you have never really seen through my words to their essence which is the relativity of conceptualization in general.   Most of what I do on this group is like holding up a mirror, and every time I hold one up to you you just swing your hand like at a fly. It makes me especially mad at you because I expected you to be more reflective since we share some more esoteric teachings, but you're never representin. Moreover you're constantly putting on more makeup.   If there is a real person in there Vaj, I would like to see it, not the house of cards reactionary.  The fact that you can't argue with me using the words that are used in the argument without bringing in some extraneous issues which weren't even present means that you're not a very brilliant sparring partner, so why not instead just be open and say what you mean?   The fact is that you and I are just not a good mix because everything you write makes me think of the materialistic close mindedness that used to really bother me in my mother. Really. I find you to be a total materialist without the slightest mystical bent. In spite of what you seem to espouse your over rationalism of things which cannot be conceptualized shows a very grasping and but anti-laconic individual.    Sort of like, "Hey Mom, you can see Aurora Borealis from Laguna Beach tonight for the first time in 50,000 years. Isn't that cool?"  -Make sure that you wear a coat Son and button up. If you get a cold and miss work then..."  Yeah, that's what you remind me of.    She has gotten better.   To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.