--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > <snip> > > Everything you are talking about here, Off, is *learned behavior*, > > not some eternal grand truth. You were TAUGHT that the know- > > ledge of TM and of enlightenment was so fragile that it had to > > be protected with eternal vigilance from what could be "inter- > > jected" into it and what could "happen to it" over time. You were > > TAUGHT that unethical acts are permissible when performing > > this "protection." You were TAUGHT to look the other way when > > these things happen, and never to complain when the people > > who are "protecting" this oh-so-precious and oh-so-vulnerable > > knowledge demean it through their lies and actions. > > The trouble with this analysis is that it's > all black-and-white, no shades of gray. > > Just for starters, reacting so violently against > control of any kind is just as much learned > behavior as the perception of the need for > control. Moreover, it is itself a need for > control, in this case to control the attempts > to control and protect oneself. It's just as > rigid, but in the opposite direction. >>>>
Exactly . Good points. I think only a bunch of loosers would be so upset about an organization that advocates absolute non-violence (stupid irrational unsubstantiated gossip not-withstanding). They should get a life, and complain about the violence being perpetrated by fundamentalists (christian and muslim etc), and stop complaining about non-violence being perpetrated by what they are calling fundamentalists. Its the violence or non-violence of a group that counts....anyone complaining that a few people can't go to the dome is childish and laughable. If I want to smoke in a smoke free bar, I can't...thats life. If I want to swim nude in the public baths, I can't...thats life. Should I start waving my arms and shouting because my Pagan religion says I should be able to go nude anywhere I like to. No. Maharishi doesn't want other pactices in the Dome and that is his choice. People should get over it, otherwise I promise you, you will see me and my goat naked in the public pools soon ! OffWorld > > Then there's the difference between the kind of > learned behavior that simply parrots what has > been internalized unquestioningly, and the kind > which involves rigorous examination before being > adopted on the strength of one's own experience, > observation, and analysis. > > And of course there's the difference between > looking the other way in the face of unethical > acts, and accepting the *principle* behind them > while deploring unethical implementation. > > > What if none of it is true, and the only thing you're "protecting" > > is an eternal technique which has never been lost and never > > "corrupted" because it cannot possibly be? > > Sounds like you're advocating fear of being > wrong. > > "The fact that you might be wrong is simply > no excuse [for not speaking out]: You might > be right in your communication, and you might > be wrong, but that doesn't matter. What does > matter, as Kierkegaard so rudely reminded us, > is that only by investing and speaking your > vision with passion, can the truth, ONE WAY > OR ANOTHER, finally penetrate the reluctance > of the world. > > "If you are right, OR IF YOU ARE WRONG, it is > only your passion that will force EITHER to > be discovered. It is your duty to promote that > discovery--either way--and therefore it is > your duty to speak your truth with whatever > passion and courage you can find in your heart." > > --Ken Wilber > > [emphases added] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
