Yeah, I do assume some sort of Prime Directive -- in that the universe is so old and that civilizations so advanced are a gimme. All this snatch and grab had to be regulated long ago. I can see the exceptions to my speculation having remote possibility, but come on -- any imperialistic species would have had comeuppance by the inter-galactic police for the crime of gluttony.
If I can go faster than light, I can do anything with physicality -- no need to grab planets from the rubes. Yes, if they landed today, we'd all be depressed instantly -- and that might be why they haven't landed. I can go outside and ruin the lives of tens of thousands instantly -- my local anthill is just waiting for me to take all their belongings -- ridiculous!!!! Just so, we're ants, maybe even merely microbes comparatively. If any civilization lasts longer than, say, a thousand years past its discovery of faster than light travel, I fully expect religion based on "absolutely figured out physics" to hold sway on the morality of a species. The advanced species have their own problems -- immortality is a drag maybe for instance. Edg--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason <jedi_sp...@...> wrote: > >  >      Duvey assumes that advanced civilisations > that have mastered Warp speed would be highly > moral and ethical. Duvey assumes that there is > some kind of Cosmic 'prime directive'. > >      I think that this has something to do with > resources. If the availablity of resources dip > below a certain point, no ideology works. If > advanced aliens go beyond warp technology and find > a way to transmute matter into any element they > want, then the resources on earth would be > 'chicken feed' and coming after it would be like > taking 'candy away from little children'. > >      But the truth can be stranger that fiction. >  The frightening possiblity exists. There is also > the reverse possiblity, Highly moral and ethical > aliens with standards sooo high that they decide > humans are viruses that should be weeded out > for something more promising like dolphins...?? > > "The enemy aggressor is always pursuing a course > of larceny, murder, rapine, and barbarism. We are > always moving forward with high mission, a destiny > imposed by the deity to regenerate our victims > while incidentally capturing their markets, to > civilize savage and senile and paranoidal peoples > while blundering accidentally into their oil wells > or metal mines." >  âJohn T. Flynn, As We Go Marching(1944) > > --- On Sat, 6/12/10, Hugo <fintlewoodle...@...> wrote: > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Science? > Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 7:47 AM > > Wrong, think of the damage to central American cultures the > arrival of a slightly more advanced group of Spaniards did. > Or any other country for that matter. Was it ever a good thing > for them? This is what Hawking was getting at. > > Do you think humans are so great and secure we wouldn't be > similarly psychically crushed by any civilisation that has > the brains to be able to get all this way? >  > > Hawking with all this new knowledge actually in his hands yet >denies > > Einstein's intuition that the universe is so vast and so >ancient that life > > almost certainly has yielded up civilizations that >re BILLIONS of years > > older than ours and which could have a complete >mastery of physicality -- > > and such beings, Hawking tells us to be >wary of. This comes off as pure > > paranoia > > >-- a paranoia of one who has been, let's say it, as if "struck down >by > >God," and which is therefore understandable. In effect, Hawking >is saying > >that aliens landing would be Gods and that he would advise >us to run > >because they can only be ready to "cripple all of us." > > > > There has never been a person whose mind was not a product of idiosyncratic > > physicality. Hawking seems to be no exception. > >  >  >
