--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Ingegerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> > Or - put on a burka.
> > Ingegerd
> 
> Good one! I've always wondered why so many spiritual
> movements give such power to the penis and vagina.
> They don't bite, do they? To be in bondage to the
> genitals is such a strange thing!

When my then-boyfriend and I took our flying block
at MIU, I was initially very scornful of and pissed
off by the separation of men and women, even for
the lectures.

A week or so into the course, after we'd been
flying for a while, I was walking with the women
from my pod to the dining hall when we encountered
some men one of them knew, and we stopped to chat.

At that point the only man I'd spent any time with
at all was my boyfriend; we'd sneak quick meetings
every now and then to compare notes on our
experiences (he was having a very tough time with
unstressing; I wasn't).

Anyway, to my astonishment and consternation--and
unlike when I was with my boyfriend--I found I was
extremely uncomfortable in the men's presence; I
could hardly wait to get away.  They were perfectly
nice guys, gentlemanly, not raucous, but there was
something about their vibe--can't think of any
other way to describe it--that was very disturbing
to the vibe I was experiencing at the time.  Not a
*bad* vibe per se, just one that was strongly
incompatible with mine.

This was a completely gut reaction, like, say, a
fingernail on a blackboard, just jarring.  My
women course buddies and I hadn't talked about men
vs. women, and we hadn't gotten any explanation
about why men and women were separated on the
course; and as I say, I'd been highly scornful of
it to start with.  So it must have been a very
"innocent" response on my part.

Unless it was a function of unstressing, but I
wasn't noticeably unstressing otherwise, and it was
so specific to this particular situation.  I hadn't
felt it with my boyfriend, but we were extremely
close and very attuned to each other.

Bottom line, I've never again objected to the
separation of men and women on courses or in group
program.  Whatever other sexism there is in the
movement, I don't think this has anything to do
with it.






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