Well Raunch, maybe it isn't a ridiculous craze. Maybe it's true. He sure is
*acting* like he has something to hide and that isn't very presidential. If he
is willing to display a COLB on the Internet, why not show the original BC on
the Internet? I also believe he was probably born in Hawaii, but the more
defiant he is, the worse he looks and he has so many problems, you would think,
he would do whatever he could to minimize any or all of them.
Question is, what would become of all the legislation he has signed if it
turned out he really was born in Kenya and not in Hawaii? Talk about a mess!
Where would you stand if it turned out he was not constitutionally qualified to
hold the office? Where would the Democrats stand? I don't think you can change
the law retroactively.
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From: raunchydog <raunchy...@yahoo.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 6:39:58 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question of Eligibility movie on YouTube
Obama was probably born in Hawaii. That should be the end of the story but it
isn't because Obama refuses to show his birth certificate. If he has nothing to
hide, why doesn't he just show the damn thing and put the whole ridiculous
birther craze to rest? What's on a Hawaiian BC that isn't on a COLB? Is there
anything on his BC that would make him ineligible to serve as president?
Inquiring minds want to know.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote:
>
> Can't resist this one...
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brian64705 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Well the birthplaces of Presidents are ussually regarded
> > as national monuments.
>
> Only if they were born at home.
>
> We really don't have much by way of comparison. Jimmy
> Carter was the first president born in a hospital,
> but his Web bios don't give the name, only the town.
> Reagan was born "in a commercial building," according
> to Wikipedia, but no address is given; George H.W. Bush
> was born at home, and that address *is* given.
> Wikipedia doesn't say whether Clinton was born at home
> or in a hospital. George W. Bush was born in a hospital,
> but the name isn't given.
>
> I'm not aware of any of the hospitals Carter, George W.
> Bush, and (maybe) Clinton were born in being made a
> national monument, are you?
>
> > Even actors and other famous peoples birthplaces are
> > celebrated.
>
> Again, not if they were born in a hospital. The home
> where a famous person *grew up*, if it's still around,
> is often celebrated.
>
> > And of course noone knew at the time of their births
> > they would later be famous. I would imagine the local
> > doctors and others who might have been present to have
> > checked their hospital records to see if they might
> > have been the ones to claim the honor of assisting in
> > the birth of a future president.
>
> So do we know of any hospital staff claiming to have
> been present in the hospitals at the births of Carter,
> George W. Bush, and (maybe) Clinton?
>
> > It seems highly suspicious to me that all Obama's private
> > records have been sealed. With the sole exception of the
> > certificate of live birth. Why the secrecy if there is
> > nothing to hide?
>
> Now, that's funny. His private records are sealed, *except
> for* his certificate of live birth, and somehow that makes
> you suspicious of where he was born?
>
> > I understand the story has changed about even which
> > institution he was born at in Hawaii. I also heard - but
> > have not seen written anywhere - that there is a record
> > confirming that his mother tried to fly to Hawaii but was
> > turned away because she was too close to giving birth. So
> > she flew immediately after giving birth and registered
> > the birth with newspapers which allegedly was possible at
> > the time without requiring a birth certificate.
>
> And have you checked to see if these stories can be
> verified? Have you checked to see whether any of them
> have been *debunked*?
>
> For example, are you aware that in Hawaii, newspapers
> get their lists of births directly from the state
> department of health, not from "registrations" made
> by parents? I found that information in about two
> minutes.
>
> > There's enough uncertainty here I think to justify
> > asking to see the long form birth certificate.
>
> No, Brian, there isn't.
>
>
>
> >
> > There are at least two other legal issues as well. One about whether his
> > mother had been in the US for five years prior to age 19 in order for Obama
> > to claim US citizenship.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:52 PM, brian64705 wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am not persuaded by those who chose to attack the messenger which is
> > > > a common response to anyone raising questions. It's interesting to me
> > > > that noone has so far claimed to have been present at Obamas birth in
> > > > Hawaii.
> > >
> > > Brian, who exactly do you *expect* to claim to have been
> > > "present at Obama's birth in Hawaii"? 3 wise men and
> > > a couple of shepherds perhaps? With a star pointing
> > > the way? 48 years ago no less? Bet I couldn't produce
> > > anybody "present at my birth either" beyond my
> > > parents. And my dad most likely only because he was
> > > a doctor.
> > >
> > > He was a nobody~~his mother was just one more
> > > young wife giving birth amongst many others. End of story.
> > >
> > > Sal
> > >
> >
>
