Having been around these newsgroups for years now I am sorry to see
the a.m.t. spillover to FFlife-not the people themselves, but the
nitpicking of nitpicking. Not that FFLife wasn't in need of some new
blood!
We should invite Andrew Skolnick over and John Whats-his-name and that
nasty nasty nasty nasty Perino, who did attempt to do his shtick here
in FFlife and thankfulyy failed (kidding about Skolnick and Perion).
Leave them out.
Couldn't the a.m.t. folks give themselves permission to not act the
same way they were acting over at a.m.t.? 




 --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Disbelief games"?
> > > 
> > > I think, Unc, that you're the one playing head games
> > > when you claim 
> > > to have experienced "real" levitation and then, one
> > > post later, upon 
> > > questioning, qualify the claim.
> > > 
> > > Either you did or you didn't.
> > > 
> > > It sounds to me like you're playing a game of
> > > spiritual-one-
> > > upmanship: I'm special...I've actually experienced
> > > someone 
> > > levitating.
> > 
> > I've read through all these posts in this exchange and
> > I can't find a hint of this
> > "spiritual-one-upsmanship". What are you talking about
> > Shemp? Unc is talking about his experinece and then
> > considering the possibility that there was some sort
> > of subjective element involved in the perception of
> > the levitation. He's being honest. What's the big
> > deal?
> 
> Part of it is that he started out by saying he'd
> witnessed "real levitation."  That's misleading
> in a TM crowd, which understands "real levitation"
> to mean an objective physical process (whether
> that's ultimately correct or not). If he admits 
> the possibility that it may have been subjective,
> he should have qualified "real" to begin with to 
> make this clear.
> 
> Another part of it is that he got all pissy and
> started putting Shemp down when Shemp pointed
> this out. That's where you really see the
> spiritual one-upmanship coming out.
> 
> And still another part of it is past history (on
> alt.m.t, where Shemp has been a participant), in
> which Barry routinely suggests that TMers are 
> experientially impoverished compared to himself--
> including demanding that they relate their
> experiences and claiming that if they don't, they
> must not have had any.  It becomes really quite
> unpleasant on alt.m.t; you're just getting a 
> taste of it here.




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