I think what you might be saying, and which also seems to be my experience, is that some people operate a lot on the level of intuition. And the insights one gains both for practical applications, and so called spirtitual ones is something that they keep to themself because they don't want to always be in a postion of having to prove it or defend it. And further, one may feel using the work "quantum" in this regard may feel appropiate. But you may discover a backlash, at least here, of mixing spiritual and scientific terms that some feel have no business being mixed, and they will let you know so. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Don Miller" <pod1...@...> wrote: > > The modern western rational mind has come to a conclusion that what we see > with our eyes comes from outside of our selves, and that what we feel with > our emotive feelings comes from within ourselves. Of course on one level it > is all a point of view, and one could argue that how one sees with their eyes > reflects ones physical position of ones self, or one could even argue further > that everything comes from within oneself, or that all outside is really > inside, and so our inner feelings are also outer. > > But what is more important is to refine a semantic interpretation of our > senses, and here I include our emotive feelings as a sense too, to a point > where these tools become the most useful possible for us in practical daily > life. The native people around me in Mexico, and many Mexicans, take for > granted that intuition does exist. Most likely people of many non-western > societies feel likewise. > > It could be that some people already have a predilection to see the outer > world at least partially through the inner emotive feelings, and others never > will be able to, but if one is borderline towards this type of seeing then a > practice might be to allow the idea to exist that just maybe not all the > feelings that they feel come from within, that some come more from the > outside and others are more from the inside, first to simply allow the notion > to exist. One might be observant of opportunities to test to see if a > feeling suspected from coming from the outside, really did. It is not at all > easy to test such things, even if it be only to ones self. For sure it is > still at best a vague sense in most humans, and there can be error. It seems > to be elusive for scientists to prove one way or the other. > > I for myself at least have come to a definitive conclusion that feelings and > thoughts of others do somehow invisibly intrude upon my psyche, to some > extent, and that establishing internal silence through regular meditation > helps to augment the distinction between outer and inner sources. To prove > it to skeptics would not be easy, but I do surprise people once in a while > with my intuition. That requires not just keeping intuition internal, and > going out on a limb once in a while to say something in advance, which one > should not be able to know rationally. But I am a quiet person and am not > interested in proving things to others, but there is enough evidence for > myself that there is some invisible connection. It could very well be that > the act of revealing tends to foil the ability to perceive, which would make > it difficult to pin down scientifically. > > As for an objective explanation for this invisible connection, there have > been more and more discoveries just this year of finding quantum entanglement > in all sorts of previously unexpected situations, and I have a hunch that the > TMO might be in fact correct on this detail. Perhaps nerves are somehow able > to connect through quantum entanglement. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "pod127b" <pod127b@> wrote: > > > > It was something I felt clearly, that's all. Furthermore I identified the > > source as not centered on people whom I knew. On the road to work after > > noting the energy in the morning and the previous afternoon and a little > > the day before too. I noticed the muted effect on the behavior of people, > > sometimes with an initial move in favor of the overly heavy dictates of > > that consciousness, and then a counter-reaction to a normal baseline. > > > > It could be then that like in other things, it is easier to defend against > > or counter-act, if it is stronger and more clearly perceived, that if it is > > subtle and slips in unawares. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "pod127b" <pod127b@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Just to kick in my two bits from Mexico. A week and a half ago more or > > > > less I felt an unusual tension in collective consciousness. I only saw > > > > it reflected in local people a little. I suspect that most humans of > > > > the modern "rational" mind have defense mechanisims against energy > > > > waves in consciousness, and those who experience them consciously, so > > > > much more so. If human behaviour is a cue, then children might reflect > > > > these kinds of things better. > > > > > > > > I spoke of this tension in collective consciousness my co-workers at > > > > the time, carefully pointing out that I did not think that it had > > > > anything to do with any of us personally. That talk would be a small > > > > detail which is verifiable beyond just statements of the subjective. > > > > > > > > > If you only saw it a bit in other people and it wasn't anything > > > to do with you and your co-workers personally, in what way was it > > > "collective" consciousness? > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <shukra69@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > mars has been under transit influence of Rahu, that could be > > > > > uncomfortable for certain people and make for testiness, you can map > > > > > it easily with Brian Conrads free program "Junior Jyotish" , do a > > > > > current prasna and use the ephemeris function and back up the start > > > > > date by a week to see what just happened. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "It's just a ride" > > > > > <bill.hicks.all.a.ride@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben Collins first attributed it to the 2 week window between the > > > > > > lunar > > > > > > eclipse and the solar eclipse. I said no, that's not it. He > > > > > > agreed. > > > > > > There's something happening at the level of consciousness that is > > > > > > putting > > > > > > people at dis-ease. I have emails from many countries were people > > > > > > are > > > > > > telling me that the former friendly people in the shops are now > > > > > > nasty. I > > > > > > experience this in those around me. I don't need any of the > > > > > > Thalmud we > > > > > > don't see the world as it is but as we are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
