--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > I think you know what point I'm trying to make
> > > > here, Rory.
> > > 
> > > Yes, it would seem you feel happy and content with MMY's 
> > > formulations and unhappy with or wounded by some of ours.
> > 
> > Well, not exactly.  My point was that there are
> > ways to talk about realization that don't involve
> > (what amounts to) disrespecting the experience of
> > the unrealized, but that are still useful to us.
> > MMY isn't the only one who can do it by any means.
>  
> It would seem to me that MMY's formulations actually disrespect the 
> experience of the so-called unrealized *more*, for he seems to be 
> saying you are not enlightened until this, that or the other.

And he's right.
 
> I actually am respecting your experience NOW in saying you are 
> already enlightened, this that you are experiencing is actually IT, 
> that which God is showing you and experiencing through you in this 
> moment, and there is at most only a bit of clean-up left to do on 
> the bodymind's habits of thinking and feeling to help it reflect 
> that. 
> 
> What I am *not* respecting overmuch is your habit of calling where 
> you are, "ignorance." This much is true; it feels (if I may stretch 
> a point) a little like a rejection or a slap in the face of 
> Wholeness.

Well, fuck Wholeness if it can't take a joke.





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