---For me, Maharishi, has been a father figure of sorts; my relationship with my own father, is cold and distant; J. Lennon, also mentioned this in his relationship with Maharishi...
So, for many, he does fulfill certain fatherly, emotional/spiritual needs... Also, that one's relationship with one's father, can symbolize or determine one's relationship to the Higher Power..or Guru.. Also, in the early days of the movement in the U.S.; Mother Olson, as she was called was always mentioned as a key player; as Maharishi used to stay at here place, when he first came here to the U.S.. So, I would suppose Maharishi, just responds to the moment, and who is in his enviornment. I suppose, he has the people who he feels most comfortable with, now, for whatever reason; -absolute loyality. Also, I think what was mentioned in this Post: That the ladies are balancing the energy in Fairfield... >From Post Message #61747 From: "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:14 am Subject: Re: TM "grad school?" dhamiltony2k5 Offline Send Email --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/12/05 12:19 PM, tomandcindytraynor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > TurquoiseB writes: > > What do people think? I'm certainly interested to > > Hear if such teachings *are* available, or even > > Theoretically available in the materials left to the "posterity" > > Of the TM movement. > > Unc > > Tom T writes: > > We currently have a weekly gathering of about 25 to 35 going on here > > in FF in which Rick Archer is a regular. The common thread is, OK this > > is how the A or E experience went down for me and is being lived day > > to day, and now What's next? Actually the 'Ladies' are very much teaching spiritual practice to this. They kind of take up where MMY had left us off a few years ago. Ammachi with her AIM techniques and Karunamayi inciting people on with their discipline to keep after it with spiritual practice of meditations. What they teach towards is really very practical for advancement of what many have gotten from years of practice of TM and TM-sidhis. Theirs is advanced patanjali for the TM seeker. Brahma=vidya Ammachi to 'embodiments of divine souls', Karunamayi to embodiments of 'souls immortal', to 'divinize' their experience. Karunamayi gave several Atman-vidya discourses recently going very directly and much in to 'what is next'. She kept hammering that 'the human birth is a great boon of God to realize supreme consciousness within us'. Is to experience the divine. In different ways she urged discipline in practice. That it 'requires going deep and to be taken seriously'. That even the enlightened meditate, that even the Rishi's of old meditated. She had some great stories about this. She emplored that people do design life to be divinizing, enhancing the power inside... to pursue practice w/ awareness where the darkness of ignorance is dispelled and conquers egoism and selfishness of the mind w/ supreme Being. That the world needs this. Even for the enlightened the spiritual practice is to close the eyes to acquire that knowledge of self realization of the Divine Consciousness. At one different point Karunamayi observed and reflected that there is a spiritual arrogance now among some old meditators, that some long-time meditators have a 'false pride of a spiritual immaturity'. she encouraged and incited that folks do use their wisdom and have a faith in sadhana. She was saying that it is not enough to just have some witness or self, but to go on with your practice to that which is divine within. To 'divinize' life in the experience and realization of the supreme within. Though not directly challenging, it was a an effective commentary of all this 'waking down' stuff which has become so popular recently. Evidently there is more and it involves going for it to find. 'Like the holy rishi's of old, god comes periodically to remind humans of the boon they do have. These ladies are that. They come out of greater compassion. Their's is of grace a spiritual teaching that a human life can be 'blessed and freed in sadhana of meditation; that the practice is not mechanical but also the will of God, the shakti we meditate upon, that vital force. Flowing with compassion they do come to us.' It is pretty obvious if you sit, listen and do it. -Doug In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Well, a bit odd indeed; my intention was to bring to awareness some > > of the tendencies which have been discussed here, in terms of how > > strange the movement has become to many outside observers, and how > > this might relate to theme's which have been present in the movement > > since Jerry, Charlie, and the more main-stream folks of times > > past...left the movement; > > There must be something at the root of what upsets people especially > > of late, of certain tendencies which seem to play themselves out, > > over and over again. > > Maharishi has *always* treated his students as children, > with him as parent and absolute obediance a given. Almost > everyone who attempted to "grow up" and make their own > decisions about their own lives has either left the movement > or been drummed out of it. > > I think it's pretty simple. This is the only form of interpersonal > relationship with which Maharishi is comfortable. He can't > possibly change, so everyone is expected to conform to > his limitations and stay a child forever. As someone said > here recently, these are the only people he trusts with the > future of the movement. They have to have as little person- > ality as possible and as little ability to stand on their own > and make their own decisions as possible. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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