Comparing the facts of richardnelson108, based on actual events he witnessed with Vaj's imaginings, and you call them equivalent? You recently said I had the intellectual depth of a turnip. I'm sorry but I cannot even grant you that much mental capacity. Your shriveled heart and blinding ego have created in you a spiritual moron.
--- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@> wrote: > > > > Pile on? Vaj has simply been exposed as a liar. Not sure > > what standard you look for in evaluating statements. But > > Vaj made a series of assertions and all of them turned > > out to be false. > > Not true. What actually happened is that several > people have *declared* them false. Those people > have IMO exactly the same level of credibility as > Vaj -- namely none. No one has presented verifiable > facts yet. > > Did you even *notice* that feste did *exactly* > what he was accusing Vaj of? He just slung insults, > and presented not even a single supposed fact. > > > When asked to back up these assertions, the best he could > > come up with, was "he heard it from someone" > > Yup. The people piling on didn't even go that far. They > just claimed things *as if they were facts*, but without > anything that could enable anyone to determine whether > they were really facts or not. > > In other words, on one level what we seem to have here > is a pissing contest, in which both sides are saying, > "What I've heard is better than what you've heard." I > call it total bullshit, on all sides. > > As for the "piling on" thang that Sal brings up, it *would* > have been possible for Richard Nelson or others to just post > a few verifiable facts (y'know...stuff including dates and > contact information and where one could go to verify their > claims) and leave it at that. They did not. What they did > was to do *exactly* the same thing that Vaj did -- make a > bunch of unverifiable claims -- and then proceed to call > him names. > > So what it looks like from my side is 1) a pissing contest > in which no one is presenting any facts, only hearsay, and > 2) a situation in which the supposed TM supporters got their > attachment buttons pushed so big-time that they've gone bat- > shit crazy trying to call Vaj names and claim he has no > credibility. > > Well...surprise. They don't have any, either. > > Everybody's just making claims. One side is also going bat- > shit crazy trying to hurl insults. Since no one in this > pissing contest has the least bit of credibility, I'm > going to go with the "side" hurling the least number of > personal insults as the "winner." And as always, that's > *not* the "TM supporters." > > > --- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> > > wrote: > > > > > > A pile-on just wouldn't be the same without > > > a drive-by from feste. > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > On May 25, 2011, at 2:42 PM, feste37 wrote: > > > > > > Vaj reminds me of the wacko political right who will say > > > anything to put their Democratic enemies in a bad light. > > > For example, the claims in the 1990s that Bill Clinton was > > > involved in drug-running and that Vince Foster, the Clinton > > > aide, was murdered. Same thing against Obama. They will > > > say anything at all. Evidence? No need to bother with it. > > > Just get the smear out there and watch it do its work. > > > This kind of stuff says more about the accusers than it > > > does about the accused. You can no more have a rational > > > conversation with Vaj about MMY than you can with Rush > > > Limbaugh and his ilk about Obama. > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "richardnelson108" > > richardnelson108@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On May 25, 2011, at 1:20 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> And yet you assume you know that Maharishi "stole" the formulas > > > >> > > > >> I heard it directly from one of Balraj's students. > > > >> > > > >> I guess one of the problems with the open, innocent hearts of > > healers > > > >> like Balraj is that mountebanks like Mahesh love to use them and > > toss > > > >> them away, like used toys. > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> The same way you "know" that Maharishi poisoned Guru Dev, which I > > > >>> have already pointed out previously is a lie. > > > >> > > > >> Actually I said he was a leading suspect. > > > >> > > > >> It really speaks more to his character; how people saw him. I mean > > if > > > >> he was the sattvic, white silk-clad, benevolent saint some might > > > >> imagine, would he have ever been a suspect at all? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> Again I ask... why do you have so much hate in your heart that you > > > >>> have to try to hurt MMY's reputation any way you can. > > > >>> > > > >>> I have no problem if you have an opinion about who MMY was and > > what > > > >>> he has done. But why must you constantly make your opinion into > > > >>> supposed "facts"? > > > >>> > > > >>> So one more time... Whats wrong with you? > > > >> > > > >> Being born with a conscience has it drawbacks. > > > >> > > > > Oh Yeah, that's right.. you have such a conscience! You lie, make > > shit up and have the nerve to say you have a conscience! > > > > > > > > And again for the record. MMY was NEVER a prime suspect in the > > supposed poisoning of Guru Dev. As I previously pointed out, I have been > > in Allahabad many times and interviewed the judge who handled Guru > > Dev';s will and many others associated with Shankaracharya ashram. None > > of them knew anything about this supposed poisoning, so how could MMY > > have been a prime suspect? You haven';t been there but speak as if you > > have been STOP MAKING SHIT UP!! > > > > Have you opinion, fine. But again I am wondering, why you must lie > > to prove that your point of view is the correct one? > > > > You must have been really hurt by someone as a child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > >
